The Washington Post sent two Pulitzer winners, writer Gene Weingarten, and photographer Michael Williamson, to PETA’s Virginia headquarters to find out why people are so cruel to their dogs. The pair shadowed Daphna Nachminovich, PETA Sr. VP, on her rounds saving chained or abandoned animals around the Norfolk tri-state area. A conversation on how the story evolved between Nachminovich and Guillermo.

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