A conversation and interview with Livio Rangel and Joel Kovel by Quincy Saul, May 6, 2015, Harlem, NY This is a transcript of a conversation between two ancestors: Livio Rangel (LR), from the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela, a lifelong organizer and educator in indigenous and campesino communities, and Joel Kovel (JK), from the USA, co-author More

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