Dolores Huerta & Ellen Gavin: Creative Courage in the Face of Fascism 

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People are taking to the streets and calling out fascism in bold, unique ways, but we’re not all there yet. If you need some encouragement, watch “The People, United” — a gripping short film about everyday Americans standing up to ICE and winning through nonviolent resistance. Created by Ellen Gavin and presented in collaboration with the Dolores Huerta Foundation and People for the American Way, the video is a powerful example of storytelling as an organizing tool. In this episode, lifelong activists and old friends Ellen Gavin and Dolores Huerta join Laura Flanders to explore how narratives help break through our silos and fears under this second Trump administration. Gavin’s works as a writer, director and producer have brought millions of views to social justice storytelling; she is also founder of Gavin Creative Collab and founding artistic director of Brava! for Women in the Arts. Huerta is co-founder of the United Farm Workers alongside César Chávez and founder and president of the Dolores Huerta Foundation. Still organizing at 95 years old, she is recognized as one of the most influential labor organizers of the twentieth century and coined the iconic rallying cry “Si Se Puede.” She was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 2012. Find out how narratives shatter fear and build movements, plus a commentary from Laura. 

“. . . We want people to be on our team. We want people to be touched in a way that says, ‘I want to be that neighbor. I want to be that helper. I want to be that person who sees something and does something instead of reacts with fear.’ When they say that fear is contagious, and then they say, courage is contagious.” – Ellen Gavin

“. . . In the farm, we didn’t respond with violence . . . César [Chávez] fasted for 25 days and then 36 days . . .  The other side, they want us to respond with violence, and we can respond with non-violence because they would like to have martial law for the whole country. So we’ve really got to have a lot of discipline now.” – Dolores Huerta

Guests

Ellen Gavin: Writer, Director, Producer: The People, United; Founder, Gavin Creative Collab

Dolores Huerta: Co-founder of the United Farm Workers; Founder & President, The Dolores Huerta Foundation

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