We talk about community land trusts, or CLTs, a lot at Next City. It's about ownership: The community owns the lands and stewards the land. That means that the buildings on the land — including housing and other spaces like storefronts — can made affordable to own or to rent, in perpetuity.

CLTs are also talked about a lot in New York City. That's how the city went from having just a small handful of CLTs in the early '90s to having 19. Now, the New Economy Project has launched an interactive map to track all of these land trusts. Read more about the map in this report from Next City's Eliana Perozo.

In today's episode, we speak to Deyanira Del Río, executive director of New Economy Project, and Matthew Shore, a senior community organizer with South Bronx Unite and a member of the Mott Haven-Port Morris Community Land Stewards CLT, about how the city's seen this explosion of CLT growth.

Listen to the episode below or subscribe to the Next City podcast on Apple, Spotify or Goodpods.

This story was produced through our Equitable Cities Reporting Fellow for Anti-Displacement Strategies, which is made possible with funding from the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation. This story has been corrected to clarify NYCCLI’s advocacy for CLT bills in city council.

This post was originally published on Next City.