We continue our conversation with investigative journalist Carole Cadwalladr about the rise of unregulated tech behemoths like OpenAI, the company behind ChatGPT that has been embroiled in scandals surrounding its generation of easily disseminated false information, and Palantir, the secretive data-mining company that now heavily contracts with the U.S. government to provide mass surveillance and data collection services.

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