Category: Labor

  • In a major step forward for the labor movement, Michigan Democrats’ repeal of the state’s decade-old anti-union “right-to-work” law went into effect on Tuesday, making the state the first to overturn the law in nearly six decades. Last March, the Democratically-controlled Michigan legislature passed the bill to toss the law aimed at hurting labor unions by allowing workers to opt out of union dues…

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  • Maya Bhusal Basnet started her career as a nail technician in Manhattan in 2009, introduced to the industry through her friends in the Nepali community. Over the past decade, she has worked at six or seven salons, always forced to leave due to deplorable conditions. Her health has suffered from exposure to toxic chemicals, her wages have furtively been robbed and isolating work conditions have…

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  • This is the third article in a three-part series on the Prince Group. For Part I of RFA’s investigation, click here. For Part II, click here

    Panha has an idea of the horrors that take place within the Golden Fortune Science and Technology Park in Cambodia’s southeastern border town Chrey Thom. He has witnessed what happens to those who try to leave.

    “When they recapture escaped workers they beat them until they’re barely alive. I’ve seen it with my own eyes,” Panha told RFA, declining to give his family name. His brother, he said, is head of security at the 15-acre (four-hectare) facility, and Panha has watched him hunt down escapees. “If you don’t beat them they will stop being afraid and more will try to escape.”

    While the compound is ostensibly open to the public, and billed as an industrial park, it is surrounded by a 10-foot-high (three-meter) concrete wall topped with barbed wire. Its heavy, metal front gate is manned by uniformed security guards, who bar entry to ordinary visitors. 

    Built by the powerful and well-connected Prince Group, the facility now counts cyberscam operations among its businesses, according to witnesses, staff and former employees. While the group denies any involvement in the park, it is run by a company headed by Prince executives and bears several other indicators of connections to the group.

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    Golden Fortune Science and Technology Park in Chrey Thom, Cambodia, is surrounded by a 10-foot-high concrete wall topped with barbed wire. It is seen here in a recent photo. (RFA)

    Inside, locals allege, trafficked Vietnamese, Malaysian and Chinese nationals are forced to carry out cyberscams. They are part of an enslaved workforce that the U.N. estimates numbers approximately 100,000 people across Cambodia – a claim the government denies.

    Fourteen local residents – among them current and former employees working at the Golden Fortune compound – separately told RFA they had witnessed security guards violently subduing escaped workers before returning them to the compound. For security reasons, witnesses requested their names not be used. At least two other Prince Group-linked properties have previously been connected with human trafficking and cyberscam operations, according to local and international media reports. 

    Prince Group spokesperson Gabriel Tan told RFA that while the conglomerate built the Golden Fortune compound, it did so at the request of a client, whom he declined to identify. Asked about allegations of trafficking and cyberscam operations within the compound he added, “we are unaware of the incident you mentioned.” 

    Cambodian corporate records suggest that the park’s parent company, Golden Fortune, is run by Ing Dara, a businessman with extensive ties to the Prince Group. He holds directorships in a number of Prince companies, including one cited by the Prince Group’s founder as the ultimate source of his wealth in disclosures to an offshore bank. Ing Dara and Golden Fortune could not be reached for comment. 

    RFA has previously revealed that Chinese police have established a special task force to investigate the Prince Group’s alleged money laundering and illegal online gambling operations run from Cambodia. In part two of our series, RFA explored how illicit funds appear to be washed and funneled into legal Prince Group-affiliated businesses. 

    This final installment in the three-part investigation into the company explores allegations that one of its facilities holds victims of Asia’s blossoming cyber-slavery industry. 

    Dirty jobs

    Chrey Thom is a one-road town abutting the Bassac river just a few hundred yards upstream from Vietnam. Like many border communities in Cambodia, the town is thick with casinos built to service foreigners who face restrictions on gambling in their own countries. 

    A Cambodian government crackdown against online casinos in 2019 forced many to close. In some cases, the empty real estate has been taken over by criminal gangs that force trafficked workers to perform cyber fraud. Such frauds have exploded in recent years, in particular “pig butchering” in which victims are lured into putting large sums of money into phony investment schemes. However, those performing the scams are often also victims held against their will and forced to find people to dupe using various online platforms. 

    As cyberscam operations have proliferated, they’ve also been found operating in office blocks, apartment complexes and what appear to be purpose-built compounds. 

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    A “hotel” just outside the Golden Fortune compound in Chrey Thom, Cambodia, has bars on its balconies to keep people from getting out, sources tell RFA. (RFA)

    Set on 15 acres of land and surrounded by concrete walls topped with barbed wire, the Golden Fortune facility hosts a soccer field, a basketball court and 18 large dormitory style buildings, all of which were constructed since mid-2019, according to satellite imagery reviewed by RFA. 

    Metal bars cover the dormitory windows on each of the five floors, suggesting they are designed to keep people in.

    Those allegedly imprisoned inside are mostly Vietnamese and Chinese, locals said. Cambodians work inside the compound, too, in security roles. Online Khmer-language advertisements for jobs within the compound seen by RFA called for Cambodians who speak Vietnamese, offering a salary of $600-800 a month on top of three meals a day and accommodation. 

    Though relatively well-paid, such work is wholly unappealing to 60-year-old Moeun, who asked that her full name not be used. She spoke with RFA reporters while standing in the thigh-high oily water of a drainage canal, catching fish with her bare hands.

    “If we don’t do good work and torture they will cut our salaries, so we prefer to come here and catch some fish to get some money,” said Moeun, whose children had worked inside the compound. “Besides working for them, what else can we do?” 

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    A former Golden Fortune security guard says workers who escaped from the compound, the triangle-shaped area seen in this Dec. 19, 2023 satellite image, would be hunted down and bounties offered for their return. (CNES/Airbus)

    Her account was confirmed by a current Golden Fortune employee, who told RFA that disobedient or unproductive workers are detained on the first floor of a building named B1 and violently punished. Many female workers in the complex are forced into prostitution and pornography, the staffer added.

    The employee compared the situation inside Golden Fortune to the Chinese thriller “No More Bets,” in which Chinese nationals are trafficked into a Southeast Asia scam compound, where they are abused and forced to help run illegal online gambling scams. 

    “The problems in there are like what the Chinese movie has revealed,” the staffer said. “Scams and extortion exist in there.”

    According to the employee, besides the scams, prostitution and pornography, extortion is another business model. Victims are released only if their families pull together adequate ransom – a common hallmark of scam compounds

    “If ransom was not provided as demanded, mistreatment, beating and electrocution would be used and video clips [about the torture] are sent to the family to see,” the staffer said. 

    Another local resident, who lives near the compound told RFA that he had seen security guards knock escapees to the ground with a car and tase them with electric cattle prods before driving them back to the compound. He claimed local police are employed as security guards at the compound. 

    Local Sampav Poun commune police chief Khuth Bunthorn told RFA that he was unaware of any cases of detention or forced labor in his commune.

    A former security guard at the Golden Fortune compound told RFA that trafficked scam employees worked 12 hours a day and would usually be sold on to another compound within six to 12 months. The former guard added that while they were no longer employed at Golden Fortune, they would still occasionally hunt down escaped workers from the compound. Local residents told RFA that Golden Fortune doles out $50 bounties for returned escapees.

    Interior Ministry Secretary of State Chou Bun Eng, who is secretary general of the National Committee for Counter Trafficking, told RFA that she was unaware of any trafficking cases in Chrey Thom.

    A bustling compound

    RFA reporters were barred from entering the Golden Fortune compound when they visited Chrey Thom last year, with security guards declining to say why. 

    Footage posted to social media in September showcases an array of restaurants, massage parlors and even a small hospital within its walled kingdom. Both the videos and satelite imagery indicate it is home to more and higher quality paved roads than the surrounding village. In one video, a billboard within the park can be glimpsed advertising 6,700-square-foot (622-square-meter) villas in Phnom Penh. 

    The Golden Fortune compound is listed on the official website of Prince Huan Yu Real Estate – a subsidiary of the Prince Group – and its location is pinpointed on its “property distribution map.” 

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    The Golden Fortune compound is listed on the website of Prince Huan Yu Real Estate – a subsidiary of the Prince Group – and its location is pinpointed on its “property distribution map.” (Image from Prince Huan Yu Real Estate)

    The Prince Group bills itself as one of Cambodia’s hottest conglomerates, with interests in everything from real estate to film production. It was founded a little under a decade ago by Chen Zhi, a politically connected Chinese émigré who became a naturalized Cambodian in 2014. Chinese court documents have termed his conglomerate a “notorious transnational online gambling criminal group” and alleged at least 5 billion yuan ($700 million) of its revenue came from illegal online gambling. 

    In 2022, a court in the Chinese county of Wancang announced that 45 individuals had been found guilty of establishing illegal online casinos in collaboration with the Prince Group. The announcement listed three locations in Cambodia where this had taken place, among them was “Caitong City,” the Chinese name for Chrey Thom.

    The eyewitness testimony related to RFA would suggest that like so many online gambling operations in Cambodia, the Prince Group has pivoted to forced labor. 

    In a 2022 documentary by Al Jazeera, a victim explained how he had been held captive and forced to scam poor Chinese farmers over messaging apps in a property held by Cambodian Heng Xin Real Estate. That company was founded by Chen; in leaked banking records shared by whistleblowing non-profit Distributed Denial of Secrets, the company is listed as the source of Chen’s wealth. Today, Cambodian Heng Xin Real Estate has two directors, both of whom have extensive links to the Prince Group. One of them, Ing Dara, is listed as the chairman of Golden Fortune Resorts World, whose name and address matches the Chrey Thom complex.

    Months before it was shut down by the government, local news outlet Voice of Democracy reported on a human trafficking raid on another Prince Group-linked property.  

    Such linkages between Prince Group property and cyberscam operations could prove awkward for Prince’s political patrons. These include recently retired Prime Minister Hun Sen, former Interior Minister Sar Kheng, former National Assembly President Heng Samrin, as well as the current Prime Minister Hun Manet – each of whom Chen serves as an officially appointed political adviser.   

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    Prince Group founder Chen Zhi, seen in back at left at a meeting in Cuba in September 2022, serves as an adviser to former Cambodia Prime Minister Hun Sen, second from left, current Prime Minister Hun Manet and other influential figures. (Hun Sen via Facebook)

    China, Cambodia’s most forceful sponsor on the world stage, has made clear its intention to crack down on cybercrime overseas. In October, Cambodia’s newly appointed premier, Hun Manet, met with Chinese President Xi Jinping in Beijing. Buried on the third page of a press release issued by Cambodia’s Foreign Ministry after the meeting was a commitment, “to further enhance cooperation in law enforcement, particularly in combating cross-border gambling, drug and human trafficking, cybercrime and fake news.”

    For some in Chrey Thom, though, that cooperation could not come soon enough.

    One resident of Chrey Thom said he and his neighbors would always try to help whenever they encountered an escapee. He remembered one time in particular, when cries of, “Thief, thief, thief,” preceded a bedraggled man crashing into his home.

    “He put his hands together and begged for mercy,” he recalled, adding that he gave the man five dollars before sending him on his way, wishing he could have done more for him.

    “We pity them and the injustice they suffer, but we cannot do anything,” he said.

    Edited by Abby Seiff, Jim Snyder, Mat Pennington and Boer Deng. 


    This content originally appeared on Radio Free Asia and was authored by By Jack Adamović Davies for RFA Investigative and RFA Khmer.

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  • In late January, Donald Trump met with Teamsters President Sean O’Brien and other leaders of the 1.3 million-strong union to make a hard sell for their support. Shortly afterwards, however, while stopping short of endorsing the Trump’s likely Democratic rival, O’Brien put out a statement praising Joe Biden for his pro-union policy positions. Trump’s dalliance with the Teamsters follows on from his…

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  • On Feb. 7, 1894, the Western Federation of Miners declared a strike in the boomtown of Cripple Creek, Colorado, in protest of increased working hours. For the next five months, thousands of miners upheld the strike will fending off violent attacks from mercenaries hired by their bosses. The resulting victory became the first in a long chain of contentious and often violent labor struggles known as the Colorado Labor Wars. Independent historian Kyle Steven Kern joins The Real News for an overview of the Battle of Cripple Creek and its significance to US labor history.

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    Mel Buer:

    Welcome back, my friends, to the Real News Network podcast. I’m your host, Mel Buer. Before we get started on today’s episode, I wanted to take a moment to thank you once again for listening to us week after week. Look, we know you’ve got limited hours in your day. Whether you’re listening to us in traffic, have us in your regular work pod rotation, or wind down the day with us. The Real News Network is committed to bringing you ad-free, independent journalism that you can count on. We care a lot about what we do, and it’s through donations from dedicated listeners like you that we can keep on doing it. Please consider becoming a monthly sustainer of The Real News Network by heading over to therealnews.com/donate. If you want to stay in touch with us and get updates about our work, then sign up for our free newsletter at therealnews.com/sign-up.

    As always, we appreciate your support in whatever form it takes. As I’ve mentioned in previous episodes and conversations about my plans for the podcast, it’s my goal to introduce and discuss important dates in American labor history for our listeners. I come from a background in organizing with the IWW, which has a long and storied legacy in the labor movement in this country, and I believe, as most organizers will agree, that knowing where we come from is a huge piece of knowing where we can go next. The struggle we are engaged in is not in a vacuum. We are a product of those who came before us, and we are charting a path that those who come after us will be able to follow. To that end, this season, there will be a number of episodes released on or near the anniversary dates of important labor struggles.

    American labor history is rich, varied, and downright incredible. I hope by doing these episodes, we can open a few doors for you and get you thinking about some ways in which we belong to this legacy. To start off this ongoing series, I want to take us back to early February of 1894, 130 years ago this year, to the mining town of Cripple Creek, Colorado, the largest of a number of mining towns in the area organized by the nascent Western Federation of Miners. We’ll get into the meat of the history here in a moment, but before we do, I would love to introduce my guest for today’s episode, my good friend and friend of the pod, Kyle Steven Kern. Kyle is a writer, independent historian, and the co-host of Profane Illuminations, an online show from Zer0 Books. His examinations of working-class life and labor history have been featured in publications like the Bias Magazine, the Activist History Review, and Protean Magazine. He is currently working on his debut monograph for Repeater Books, exploring the connection between philosophy and labor history. Welcome to the show, Kyle. So nice to have you with us.

    Kyle Kern:

    Thanks for having me. It’s great to be here.

    Mel Buer:

    It’s been a long time since we’ve been on a show together. I’m really excited for this conversation today.

    Kyle Kern:

    I know.

    Mel Buer:

    I know. Last time we talked was what, 2020, I think?

    Kyle Kern:

    Oh, something like that. Yeah.

    Mel Buer:

    It’s been a while.

    Kyle Kern:

    Yeah. Nothing interesting has happened since then though, so we can just pick right back up.

    Mel Buer:

    Life goes on. Yeah. Okay, so we’re talking about the Cripple Creek Miner’s strike of 1894. This is a pretty important piece of labor history that I think is really, really important for us to dive into. February 7th was the start of the strike in 1894, that’s 130 years ago. When this episode gets released on the 8th of February, we will be right around that anniversary. So I think this is a great time for us to have this conversation. I think to start off, a great way to dig in is to take a look at some of the economic factors that played into the start of this strike. There’s a lot going on in 1893-94 in the United States. Do you want to give us a little bit of a sense of what the economic conditions looked like at that time?

    Kyle Kern:

    Sure. Thanks again for having me. By the way, the economics of the second half of the 19th century in the United States is about as chaotic as the rest of the history in the second half of that century. You have not just the period leading up to a civil war and then the period of the Civil War itself, but everything in the back half of the 19th century is pointing the United States towards the direction of an industrialization. So the lives of everyday working people are changing rapidly. They’re surrounded by change in industry, change in politics, including representation in political parties, as well as just the overall construction of the United States was moving away from an established agrarian economy into a more internationally focused, globally focused, industrialized economy.

    A big part of this change in production was the Western expansion in the United States, including the incorporation of the territory of Colorado in, I believe, 1861, which is incredible timing, obviously, not accidental timing considering is around the same time that southern states were seceding. And then the backdrop of all of this is actually the mining industry. The mining industry was something that initially started from the imagination of frontier culture, right? This idea that in 1848 and 1849, when hard metal ore deposits were discovered in places like California, and eventually Nevada, Idaho, and Montana, the U.S. economy made a decided shift toward the grading of silver and gold as a way of measuring its national currency. And so all of this meant that in the beginning, moving out to the western part of the United States meant a… No, that’s not the direction I want to go in. Apologies. Sorry, I’m a little nervous.

    Basically, I know I shouldn’t be. So a good place to start actually would probably be 1873. 1873 was the year that the U.S. was, by default, put on a gold standard. It passed the Coinage Act in 1873, and now the price of U.S. currency was wrapped much more closely to the price of rare metals that were being extracted from western states like Montana, Colorado, Idaho, and California. The problem with this period in American history is the various booms, busts, and crises in American capitalism in its early industrial years, meaning that for the last three decades of the 19th century, the American economy, and as a result, because of our focus today, working-class people were experiencing a really incredible change.

    And if you jump forward to 1893, which is really the lead up, sort of set the stage for Cripple Creek and everything that happened in 1894, though not exclusively, there’s a banking crisis that historians refer to now as the Panic of 1893, which is basically the reserves of gold in the United States were short, and this led to some pretty significant bank failures and a stock market crash as people rushed to withdraw their money from banks.

    The result of this was hundreds of miles of railroad going into receivership, hundreds of banks over a three-month period, a lot of them centered on the newly settled Midwest and Western states completely closed. And after this three-month crash in the middle of 1893, the U.S. entered into its worst financial depression since the beginning of industrialization. In that same year, there was a collapse in silver prices, and it brought a lot of strain on the newly established Western territories who were relying heavily on mining, especially mining for silver and copper and eventually gold, and started us really on this path toward the conflict because miners in this time period were already struggling under very poor working conditions and the strain of all of the other financial panics that they’d experienced for decades before. So unemployment was skyrocketing, and literally hundreds of thousands of people were put into either part-time employment or out on the road to try and find work.

    The joint stock corporations that owned these mines were based in places like San Francisco and New York, and a drop, for example, like in Butte, Montana, they experienced this, their work, as they say, copper was king, a slight dip in the prices or in the speculation of the price of copper in New York City or in San Francisco could result in hundreds or thousands of people losing their job in the blink of an eye. So financial speculation, a lack of regulation, and a series of rushes to extract as much rare minerals from the earth as quickly and as efficiently as possible created an environment that was, it was a powder keg. It was a powder keg that was waiting to explode at any moment. And it did, in a series of conflicts over particularly in that decade, set the stage for not just the mine wars of this period, but the ones in places like Colorado as well as back east in coal mines. It sort of set the United States on this path toward the industrial conflicts that it would experience in the early parts of the 20th century.

    Mel Buer:

    I think there’s a good piece of context that we want to bring in here is that in the 1880s, the Knights of Labor were ascendant and becoming sort of consolidating themselves into what ultimately became the American Federation of Labor, which is the first half of the AFL-CIO Federation that we know today. That kind of organizing was happening in the mid-1880s at the tail end of, I would consider what I would call the first major chapter of what is now successive gilded ages in this country. And there’s a lot of organizing these new laborers, particularly in these mines, as they’re being consolidated by these sort of mining magnets, right? And in Colorado and the surrounding area there is what ultimately became the Western Federation of Miners, which is only about a year old, roughly. They organized in 1892 to ’93, I believe. They were originally called the Free Coinage Union local number 19, and that was quite a few of the miners that were working at something close to 150 mines in the Colorado area, and it became the Western Federation of Miners, not long after that.

    So we have a lot of new organizing that is happening in the area as these industries are being consolidated under these monopolies, and particularly in Cripple Creek. It’s one of the largest mines, it’s the largest mining town in the area at the time, and they employ; Cripple Creek mine employs something like one-third of the miners in that area in the 1890s. So they have a monopoly over the labor force as well. And because of the Panic of 1893 and the collapse of silver, the value of silver, gold becomes even more valuable. And so the mining industry, the gold mining industry, becomes, in today’s money, a multi-billion dollar industry because it’s keeping the economy afloat during the panic. So what you’re seeing is on the one hand, you have these capitalists who are consolidating profits and are taking advantage of what ultimately becomes a labor surplus because silver miners need to find jobs elsewhere, and they end up finding jobs in the gold mines in the area.

    And on the other hand, you also have really militant labor organizing that’s happening in these mines. And for folks who have been organizing for a long time or are particularly interested in labor history, you know who the Western Federation of Miners are, and we’re going to talk a little bit more about the legacy of that union a little bit later on. But what they’re doing is they are attempting to stabilize, ultimately, an unstable profession in the area. And this is kind of what sets the scene for what ultimately becomes the Cripple Creek Miners strike. Because of this labor surplus, because these bosses know that there are a lot of people looking for work, they start to squeeze the labor force by attempting to mandate a 10-hour workday. Now, prior to this mandate, the miners in the area worked eight-hour days and they got paid three bucks a day, which is roughly about a $100 a day in today’s money.

    So this was a standard that they had set. The owners decided that they wanted to add two extra hours to the workday, which is a lot, and they didn’t want to pay more for the additional work. So it was going to be an additional two hours of work per day still for three bucks, which the union said, No, we don’t want this. So the owners said, okay, so you guys can work for eight hours a day, but you’re going to take a pay cut and only get paid 2.50, which is a significant pay cut for no change to the work that they were doing prior. And this is really just the bosses trying to capitalize on the fact that there are a lot of people who need work and someone will take that job for that amount of money, and understandably, it pissed the workers off. There’s no reason why these folks should have taken the pay cut to work the same amount of hours. And so this is what sets the stage for the miner’s strike.

    Kyle Kern:

    You bring up a couple of really good points. The first one being the effects of Gilded Age policies. The crises of this period that emerged, emerged directly from the policies and conditions of the Gilded Age and are what provoked the responses and the organizing efforts from miners in the Western territories and the establishment of the Western Federation of Miners. And it’s really useful context for understanding the way that these labor conflicts change history because there was a lot happening in the 1890s in terms of conflict between miners and employers, but in the same way that the gold rush was a rush, so too was the increase in, the precipitous, increase in conflict between miners and owners that led to the establishment of the Federation in Butte in 1893, and then the incorporation of the Coinage Union as local 19 in December of that same year.

    This is all one year before everything happened, and the establishment of the WFM was catalyzed through incidents like another really important labor conflict at the Coeur d’Alene in Idaho, which was just the year before that. So we’re talking about a banking crisis in 1893, a labor conflict that resulted in violence in the Western territories the year before that. And then in that same year as the establishment of the WFM in Colorado, all of a sudden there was this new interpretation, this new way of looking at work that was not as prevalent before, and we’ll talk about it later when we talk about the changes in organizing, but the Western Federation of Miners became a really important sort of element of the reformist movement that was popping up in multiple parts of the country, but especially out west, and it came to a head in Cripple Creek, just as you said.

    First of all, through the differences in working conditions, a lack of uniformity. Industrial production is about taking workers and giving them individual, single small skills as part of a larger operation. It was no longer just a guy panning for surface gold or surface mining on his own or as part of a small crew, but was now a series of workers who were all performing single tasks. And everything from pit mining to surface mining, the role of individual people was fundamentally changing, and that’s the way that they lived their life was. They were in these mining towns, some of them far away from their families, some of them with their families with them, but not often.

    The thing that’s really unique about Cripple Creek is how it was established. It was part of the boom town boom, if you will, where these boom towns would all of a sudden pop up because of all of this investment in capital, people were discovering gold, and then the prospectors who were discovering the gold were then at a financial need selling that property to owners, in this case Colorado Springs. And then the guy who found gold in Colorado, he died poor, his name was Bob Womack, and he was at the meeting with the capitalists in Colorado Springs to first enter Cripple Creek. He met with the Raven Gold Mining company as well as a couple of other representatives, but then he died poor. And so it’s a really taxing work, mining, but as mines got deeper, as they went underground, it’s already dangerous work.

    When you’re working with surface rock, in Colorado specifically, what they would do is in order to sort of penetrate the surface, they would take a pickaxe and poke patterns in the surface of the rock, and then insert blasting caps into that and then use that to sort of blast out and dig in further. They would dig these, they were often up in water and really sort of cold conditions. Oftentimes, these early miners, and as well as miners later on, would work specifically in the winter because they had to dig horizontally, and in order to protect themselves, they would have to dig while the water was frozen. This is all just to say that not only were the working conditions poor and difficult, but when industrial capitalists came in and started dictating how the working day went, something had to give. There were 150, just as you said, something around like 150 mines just in the Cripple Creek district.

    Cripple Creek is a small creek, but the whole surrounding area was named after the place where gold was first discovered. And so you had all of these bosses who all lived in Colorado Springs, and who worked with one another, and colluded with each other, and formed organizations like the Mine Owners Association in order to advocate for one another, but they were working under very variable working conditions, and especially hours being the big part of it. One mine would have eight hours, another mine would have nine hours, another one you would work 10 hours with almost always the same pay. And what the mine owners started doing, as capitalists and industrialists do very well is they themselves started organizing with one another, and that’s how this conflict around the working day combined with the soft labor market, again, Mel, you really hit the nail on the head.

    That soft labor market is what resulted in a bunch of silver workers and silversmiths from places like Leadville close by in Colorado, which was very rich with silver, to go out looking for more work. And so when hundreds or thousands of workers were losing employment immediately at the whims of someone in New York or someone in San Francisco washing the market, they started to recognize the difference in their working conditions. But those differences were brought to the surface by the mine owners themselves who did, just as you described, who decided that they wanted to increase working hours because of the soft labor market.

    With incidents like Coeur d’Alene peering over the shoulders of everyone who’s in this situation as a big sort of galvanizing moment that pushed organizing and also gave mine owners something to fear. They wanted to adjust the variable hours to a, sorry, I’m going to rewind that a little bit. It all really started, the owner of a particular mine called Isabella, I believe, planned to lengthen the working day from eight to 10 hours, and then that’s when the miners voted amongst themselves to authorize a strike. It was the first big moment that pushed additional organizing in Cripple Creek just on both sides, on the side of the mine owners who established a chapter of the Mine Owners Association in Colorado Springs, and then on the side of workers as well, who used this move specifically around ours to organize the mines in the Cripple Creek district, call it the Free Coinage Union, and affiliate with the Western Federation of Miners more solidly.

    That was in December, and when stuff really picks up that next year, it’s just kind of, I think the real takeaway from all of that is it’s so remarkable to think about how quickly these things pop up when necessity is the forefront of people, whether or not people can eat or their families can eat. A lot of the problems that they had too was with working conditions because you can’t breathe that stuff in for that long, for that much time. Surface mining is dangerous because of what you’re breathing in.

    The front-tier fantasy probably gave away pretty quickly to the reality of changing an industrial production, which in the case of mining means disaster because the history of mining is a history of workplace disasters. On the one hand, the immediate ones, accidents in transportation, explosions, roof ins, fires. When a fire starts and you’re underground, you die by suffocating because the fire sucks all of the oxygen out. There’s a story that I read for my book, this is about a coal miner, but it’s a story that really sticks in my mind about there was a large coal pile that someone was doing work on standing on top of, and the problem is that it was an unstable pile of coal, and what happened was a pocket of error opened up close to the bottom of it, and then the shift in that coal pile took the worker and sucked him into the bottom of it.

    And the thing is that he didn’t die from the pressure or die from that kind of injury. He died by suffocating because he didn’t have any air. There’s this, there’s the effects of mining that are a just full-scale invasion on the body, mining for rare minerals in open-cast context, in surface mining, and in underground mining all have, because we can study this now, we know more about it.

    They all introduce elements of black lung disease. So even before we had a name for a lot of these types of things, even before we had an archive that I was able to go and dig around in, or World Health Organization studies talking about the effects of breathing in the effects of mercury on contemporary mining, because mercury is used in mining to extract the… Mercury, it attracts these heavy rare metals. So what they do is they use mercury to combine it with the heavier metals that are present in an ore, and then they use that and then they extract it, and then later on they separate the mercury from the gold or the mercury from the silver or whatever they’re trying to refine.

    And exposure to mercury, if you can believe it, causes organ failure and causes neurological problems. And just mining has always been physically dangerous, but it’s always worse than you think it is. And the people who understood this the best were the people who were sitting there and breathing the stuff in. All of this combined together was just like I mentioned a powder keg earlier. Not to be cliche, but that’s what it is. It was something was waiting to happen because of the conditions of industrial production in that industry. And it’s really, you see how quickly things popped off in Cripple Creek, and yet somehow still managed to think, how did this not happen sooner, right?

    Mel Buer:

    I think there’s an important piece to be sort of looked at, and maybe this is a good segue into the strike itself. So the workers walked off, they struck on February 7th because of the organizing that they had been doing in the region. Workers struck multiple mines at the same time. It wasn’t just the Cripple Creek mine, but it was solidarity strikes and secondary strikes at other mines as well in the area. And as a result of that, according to my own research, there were certain mines that had previously, mine owners had previously potentially pushed for a 10-hour workday. They immediately, upon seeing other mines getting struck, they reversed course and they guaranteed an eight-hour workday, and those mines remained open. I think there’s an interesting sort of parallel, because I always look for, in labor history, as you do as well, we look for the parallels and the strategies that are still in use today. And I think of that particular strategy being most recently very useful for what the UAW was attempting to do with their contract campaign.

    Kyle Kern:

    Absolutely.

    Mel Buer:

    Right. And I think this is a good piece to give us a good 10 minutes or so really talking about what strategies were employed during the strike and what were some of the pieces that were unique to this particular strike, especially as it relates to the state response, who was supportive of the strike and who was not. I think that’s a really great place to move toward. What are your thoughts? What has your research told you?

    Kyle Kern:

    Oh, man, where do you begin, right? In terms of strategy, the most important lesson from this and almost all labor history is the way that workers used the unique particularities of their environment, which includes the type of work that they were doing, it’s historical and political context, the types of workers who were there. Cripple Creek was unique in some ways because it was more homogenized than other mining communities, which had a lot of, for example, European immigrants.

    There was a big problem of the Italian question in other mining camps, especially up in Montana, which is, that’s a rabbit trail I’m not going to go on. But the thing about Cripple Creek was that it was, even for mining communities, primitive in a lot of ways. When you came out to the west to mine when you were a prospector, it’s not dissimilar, actually. When you come out prospecting, you come out your first year and you’re in a tent, and you bring probably your food and cans, and then eventually you move into something of a primitive log cabin in that Scandinavian style that was popular in the frontier west in the United States in that time period.

    And in other instances, like in Butte, for example, there was enough time through the extraction of things like copper and silver to create more established mining communities. And it’s not that this didn’t happen in Cripple Creek, it did, but it’s because the element of Cripple Creek being essentially the final gold rush in Colorado’s history meant that there was still a sort of lagging behind in this, not to call it the standard of living, but in the type of living that people were doing. So it was an environment where the elevation was extremely high, where it was difficult to get to, and where a mining community had just popped up a couple of years before that. And so, out of necessity, workers found themselves, like all workers do, they found themselves standing shoulder to shoulder by virtue of their condition, not by virtue of national origin or something. I mean, the types of people who were out in Colorado were of all different stripes too.

    There were people who had come out earlier, sort of buying into the myth-making of frontier culture as a way to potentially get rich, or find wealth, or stability for their family. There was the Trumpist element of work in that time period, something that I research on as well, where workers who were maybe blacklisted from certain employers out east, especially if they were union organizing or who were general just transient in their day-to-day life would make their way out via rail technology. There was a railway that went into Cripple Creek that was very narrow, which proved to be an advantage for the union. That’s another good thing to add to the list, but that allowed for access for people to make their way east and west. And so it was difficult to do what they did, but it’s always difficult, and the way to overcome the particular context of your labor conflict is to lean into the skid, so to speak, and to capitalize on the actions of your employer.

    It’s not surprising that wages, and free time, and working conditions, and health and safety concerns remain problems that people are experiencing. You’ve mentioned the UAW, that is absolutely 100% obviously the best comparative example right now, maybe besides Warrior Met, which we can also talk about. But the idea of the UAW strike, the contemporary most recent UAW strike, a lot of it was about the condition of work. There’s a really good article that’s in The Nation, and I can’t remember who wrote it unfortunately, but it was really great, that was dissecting the claims of injury and difficulty that UAW workers were experiencing. And it’s like I was talking about earlier with the hidden aspects of the difficulty of this work.

    For UAW workers, it’s about the stress of repetition in a production line. Your job, say, on a production assembly line is to put seats into a car. The frame gets down to you, and you do the same thing, however many hundreds of times per shift per week, which involves taking a seat, stepping over the frame of a car, leaning into a particular area with your hands and your feet and everything exposed, and doing the same repetitive moves over and over and over again. UAW workers report a lot of issues with their lower backs, and it makes perfect sense, right? The condition your body is put in by doing the same repetitive action over and over and over again is not the result of you not being good at your job. It’s the result of the natural wear and tear that work has on the body, and that injury is a condition of your employer’s profits. They don’t make profits without being able to induce at much injury as possible without breaking the law or without coming on the wrong side of their workers.

    Mel Buer:

    There’s something also you mentioned about political context here. So it’s one thing to remind our listeners is in the 1890s, we’re in the midst of a pretty intense populist movement in the United States, which has a lot of benefits for union organizing at that time. Particularly in the area, you have a populist governor who is in support of the strike. You have judges and other justices who are also in support of the strike, which means that oftentimes the mine owners trying to employ things like the courts or requests for the state militia, which is the precursor to the National Guard to come and break the strike are sort of sidestepped or outright denied. And ultimately, what you have during the strike, as well is you have a county sheriff who is willing to do the dirty work of the mine owners and deputize something like 1,300 ex-army folks, private mercenaries, the precursor to maybe, I don’t know, freelancers for the Pinkertons to try and break the strike as it drags on over the course of, what, nearly two years.

    And what we see is the states sort of for the first time in Colorado history, and maybe the last time in a long time, I think, actually stepping on the side of the striking workers to push back against the sort of militarization of these independent strikebreakers and to ultimately drive them out of the region and force the mine owners to disband these private armies that they have put together to try and break this strike. So this is a very unique sort of space in labor history where we can see what that looks like. And there aren’t very many moments in labor history since then where we can point to the results of a sympathetic government stepping in for workers. The best we can hope for is a sitting U.S. president to walk a picket line.

    I think that’s a good piece to remind folks about is that the post-panic or the economic conditions led to some really interesting political shifts that then worked in the favor of these mine workers during their strike, and very quickly experienced a backlash within a couple of years after the strike ended where we did not see that kind of state response again. And in fact, and we’ll talk about this here in a minute, I think it’s a good piece for us to land on as a way to wrap up this conversation, but we see a bunch of interventions by the state, by state militia, by the state governor, by mayors, by court justices, all of whom belong to the camp where they are in support of this because no one likes what the bosses are trying to do. The union, the Western Federation of Miners, really did enjoy popular support for this strike.

    You had civilians and individuals who lived in the region who absolutely supported what they were doing. They did not think that the mine owners were in any way justified in their attempts to squeeze more blood from their workforce without adequately compensating them for it. And you’ve noted that the working conditions were abysmal, so they had a real sense of popular support and institutional support for what they were trying to do. And ultimately, after two years of intermittent violence by both sides, right, two years of really incredible sort of things that were happening, including at one point strikers blew up a shaft house above one of the mines as these deputized mercenaries were trying to reach their position where they were holding their line essentially and sent them running back down the hill. So you have these really dramatic moments in the course of this strike that I wish we had more time to get into, but we have this really dramatic sort of story that’s unfolding, and ultimately, the miners were successful.

    They ultimately were able to call these mine owners into a room in Colorado Springs and get them to agree to an eight-hour workday with no change in pay, and to really get that on paper. And these mine leaders survived attempts to lynch them outside the meeting house. They had to sneak out the back door in order to find safety. They had pretty much an uphill battle to try and win this, and ultimately, they were successful. And as far as casualties go, I think there were two deaths, one on either side of the strike, and a bunch of miners that were arrested, only six maybe were convicted of crimes as a result of the strike. So ultimately, a resounding victory for this very young miners union. But as you and I both know, there is a backlash to this, right? The backlash at the end of this conflict was pretty swift, and the Western Federation of Miners was forever labeled violent, militant, ultimately socialists, right?

    Kyle Kern:

    Yeah. The advantage that the Western Federation of Miners had in this case, it really talks about, it really illustrates the complexity of wielding power in defensive workers. The governor of Colorado at the time was a guy named Davis Waite, who reportedly comes from an abolitionist family. He was born in New York, and he moved across the Midwest during the Civil War, and partially because of those abolitionist views. And Waite was radical in some ways in the same ways that the Populist party, which formed, I believe, in 1891 as a coalition of Midwestern and southern agrarian reformers who cared about stuff like reform of the federal government in the form of nationalization of industry, an eight-hour workday, free silver, anti-monopoly, anti-robber baron kind of policies were popular, and Colorado at the time elected a delegation to Congress entirely from the Populist party, including their governor.

    So, Davis Waite, the thing about what he did is that he didn’t just intervene in some ways. He didn’t maintain a pure lily-white neutrality or whatever, but inserted himself into the conflict in a way that put him on the side of the workers. He negotiated, in the first round of negotiation, he negotiated on their behalf, and then he did something really remarkable, in the second day of negotiation, he stepped back and showed up in support, but stopped sort of driving the car, right? His goal was to get them, his goal was peace, his goal was stability, but his goal was stability at the bargaining table and fair consideration in the midst of this really intense physical conflict, like, just as you said, that saw after the miners overtook Bull Hill, which was the biggest overlook over Altman, which is the highest point in that district.

    They took power by setting up commissaries and boarding houses and prepared for a long haul under the leadership of John Calderwood. They militarized themselves and began performing daily drills, and they started rehearsing for these conflicts. So when things escalated, it became clear that, and as we see, and as you’re saying in the events surrounding this where state power was wielded in the way that we’re most familiar with, which is to break the strike, put people back to work, to maim and kill workers in favor of capitalists and industrial capitalists. The necessity of allies, including the community, is now and shall always be incredibly important. Workers, other hard rock miners from around Colorado showed up to Cripple Creek when they heard of everything that was happening, especially after the union moved to seize some of the mines, raided the general store, and all of these, as word got out, it was clear that people were on their side.

    Mel Buer:

    I think a great way to talk about, close out this conversation, is that there is a legacy to the strike, as I mentioned. And the Western Federation of Miners’ involvement, ultimately, they saw a boom in their membership and more organizing drives in the years after the strike. But they also had some backlash because they were seen as the instigators of some pretty intense violence. And in the late 1890s, what ultimately ended up happening is that they were forever more seen by mine owners as being these beastly instigators of extreme violence against the machine of capital.

    And as we know, capitalists are really good at sort of personifying those mechanisms and creating a sort of emotional attachment to them in the eyes of the citizens that they propagandize. So the Western Federation of Miners was really seen as this sort of too-militant, too-violent workers organization, and they were often blamed for violence breaking out in subsequent labor fights in the area. And ultimately, what that led to is the WFM severed ties with the AFL in the 1890s, and they went on to become a major defining group of organizers in the creation of the industrial workers of the world in 1905, and played a huge part in many of the sort of mining organization and strikes that happened in the first 15 years of the 20th century.

    Very important sort of figures coming out of that movement are folks like Big Bill Haywood, Frank Little, who are IWW organizers and affiliated with the WFM within the IWW. So in terms of the legacy, in terms of seeing this timeline stretched a little bit beyond just the last decade of the 19th century, what we’re seeing is this sort of through line of these strikes radicalizing a new generation of organizers workers who are already fed up with the ways in which industrial capitalism has made their material conditions worse. And it leads to some of the most exciting, in my opinion, the most exciting organizing in the decades, the new decades of the 20th century. And we wouldn’t be where we are without the hard-fought wins of places like Cripple Creek. What do you think? Do you agree?

    Kyle Kern:

    Yeah, I completely agree. And the WFM formed initially with the intent of confederating with the AFL and then left the AFL really quickly. And the reason why is because the AFL didn’t offer them support when they needed it in Colorado. And so it pushed the WFM in a more radical direction, in a direction that would ebb a little bit in terms of their establishment of the IWW, and then their later break, shortly thereafter, their break with the IWW. There’s a difference in strategy, and the determining factor was what’s the best way to approach this? And it’s a time period in where people are establishing new political parties and seeing them as a vehicle for change. They’re doing all kinds of things in order to sort of address the rapidly changing world around them. But the thing that cuts to the core of everything that we’ve been talking about is it raised a new element of working-class spirit in the United States that had never existed before.

    And that’s the takeaway from every event in labor history is that while work changes, while economies change, the process of addressing these issues that we’re talking about largely remains the same. And I don’t mean in strategy, because there’s no precise strategy. I don’t mean in blueprint because there is no blueprint, there’s no manual, and there’s no skeleton key for worker struggle. The answer to your problems at work are always born in that struggle, and they’re articulated by those who are willing to stand up for themselves and the people around them, which is something that I believe that everyone has within them. We have it within us to make the determination for struggle based off of our daily life. I’ve been talking about blasting caps and dynamite. Well, it’s all dynamite. The dynamite is the working-class spirit in you because it’s a gift, it’s free, and it’s because the price has already been paid by people who came before you and by you, right?

    I think it’s too biblical. But I think about the section of the Sermon on the Mount where Jesus said, “For the gate is small, and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are a few who’d find it.” And he’s talking about this reflection on a way of living that, on the one hand, there’s a way of living that’s wide and easy, and that requires being told what to do and how to live your life in a particular way that’s very external. That’s through the influence of others sometimes who are taking advantage of you, and then there’s always an alternative path that is inside of you, and that’s to do the difficult thing and make the determination for struggle.

    It’s not like the Coolies and the Rockies and the valleys and the curves of the mountains brought gold to the United States, right? It all seems like this big accident. A gold rush leads to statehood, that leads to industrial investment, leads to workers moving to the area, leads to exploitation, leads to conflict, leads to the results of that conflict, and so on and so forth, and keeps moving. In all of this, there was never a guidebook outside of the particular conditions of where they were living. There’s no blueprint telling them what to do. There’s just the magnitude of their life, the necessity of doing something about it, purely for a lack of other options, and the discovery that we make every time we organize, the discovery we make that yes, there is power in standing with one another and in using all means necessary in order to forward a struggle into new decades.

    Clearly, the WFM and the IWW have done this and set the stage for history as we see it happen throughout the 20th century. But as you were just talking about with the UAW specifically now, Shawn Fain, the newly elected leadership, and Unite All Workers for Democracy have done something really special, not just through their direct action and through their fights with the big three and with the new organizing that they’re doing right now, but they did so in using history in a certain way that recognizes that history is never closed off. It’s not this thing in a book, in a place, it’s your life. And when they declared their strike the stand-up strike, I think people were able to recognize the weight of what that meant, but history tells us just how heavy that weight actually is. It’s incredible work to be able to take the past and re-articulate it in the present. It’s difficult, and the path is very narrow, but for those who are willing to do it, it’s incredibly rewarding. And as I said earlier, in a way, it leads to life, if that makes sense.

    Mel Buer:

    It does. I think that’s a great way to end it. Thank you so much for coming on the show, Kyle. Please come back anytime to talk labor history. I would love to have you on again. Can you let our listeners know where we can find you and your work?

    Kyle Kern:

    Oh, sure. You can find me. I’m on Twitter at LaborKyle on pretty much everything. I have a YouTube channel, and you can also find me on the Zer0 Books YouTube channel semi-frequently, talking about all kinds of stuff, but just keep listening to this show. I think that’s my takeaway.

    Mel Buer:

    Thank you. All right. That’s it for us here at the Real News Network podcast. Once again, I’m your host, Mel Buer.

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  • Homegrown Sustainable Sandwiches, a Seattle-based chain, was founded with the mission of creating a more sustainable food system; however, as one former employee tells TRNN, Homegrown’s business model is “not actually sustainable for their workers.” Workers at Homegrown voted overwhelmingly to unionize with UNITE HERE LOCAL 8 in late 2022, and they have been fighting for a first contract ever since. In fact, workers from two Homegrown stores have been on strike since late last fall in protest of the unfair termination of union leader Sydney Lankford, who was fired after speaking up at a union delegation. As of this week, workers at the Redmond Homegrown location have been on strike for over 100 days. We talk with Sydney Lankford and Perry, two members of the Homegrown workers union who are currently on strike.

    EDITOR’S NOTE: The heat pay contract provision referenced in this conversation would guarantee time-and-a-half pay for workers if and when the in-store temperature reaches 82 degrees Fahrenheit, not 84.

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    Sydney Lankford:

    I’m Sydney. I’ve been working at the Redmond Homegrown, which is in the Seattle area, for about two years. In that time, I’ve been fighting for our union, and then our contract. I’ve been publicly on the organizing committee since the beginning. In October, I was fired, and I’ve been on strike for 98 days for my reinstatement.

    Perry:

    I’m Perry. I work at the Southcenter Homegrown location in Tukwila. I’m a shift lead. I’ve been working at Homegrown Sustainable Sandwiches for about a year and a half. I’ve been on strike for 73 days in solidarity with Sydney. My coworkers and I have walked out of our job in protest to get Sydney her job back, to reinstate her, and we’re fighting for that fair Union contract that we’ve been in the trenches for for about a year since we won our union election last December of 2022.

    Sydney Lankford:

    I’m also fighting for that contract.

    Maximillian Alvarez:

    All right. Welcome everyone to another episode of Working People, a podcast about the lives, jobs, dreams, and struggles of the working class today, brought to you in partnership with In These Times magazine and The Real News Network, produced by Jules Taylor and made possible by the support of listeners like you.

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    My name is Maximillian Alvarez, and I could not be more excited to formally welcome you all to season seven of Working People. As you guys know, the season officially kicked off last week with our special episode commemorating the one-year anniversary of the horrific, devastating Norfolk Southern train derailment in East Palestine, Ohio. But we thought it was important for that episode to focus just on the voices and stories of residents who are still living through hell one year after the derailment.

    But I’m here now to let you all know that we are officially back and we’ve got really big plans for this season of the show. I am really, really grateful to be joined today by our guests, Perry and Sydney, who you heard at the top of the episode. They are current and former workers at Homegrown Sustainable Sandwiches.

    But as we’re going to dig into today, Sydney and her coworkers are fighting not only for a union contract, but fighting to get her job reinstated after she was unjustly fired a few months ago.

    As you heard from Perry and Sydney as well, workers at Homegrown Sustainable Sandwiches in the Seattle area voted overwhelmingly to unionize with Unite Here Local 8 in late 2022. They have been fighting for a first contract ever since.

    Though you guys may not have heard about it until now, workers from two Homegrown stores have actually been on strike since late last fall in protest of the unfair termination of union leader Sydney Lankford, who was fired after speaking up at a union delegation. By the time you guys hear this, workers at the Redmond Homegrown location will have been on strike for over 100 days.

    So that’s a huge deal. We’re talking workers picketing for over a hundred days, and yet the media coverage on this has been, let’s say, sparse. So what’s going on here? We wanted to talk with Perry and Sydney and take you guys, as we always do, to the frontlines of struggle to hear directly from the workers who were fighting the good fight.

    So, Perry, Sydney, thank you both so much for joining us today on the show, especially with everything that you all got going on over there. I really, really appreciate it. I wanted to ask just by way of centering our listeners here who, as I said, may be hearing about your importance struggle for the first time right now, where do things stand right now? What do folks need to know about what is happening with this strike as we speak on the week of February 5th?

    Sydney Lankford:

    In September, we ran three-day strikes in six or so of the shops for fighting for job security and healthcare, because we’re also in our contract fight. We’ve been in this fight for quite a while, and it’s very important.

    Once we were back in the shop, my manager gave about eight write-ups in a month and a half span, which is more write-ups than I’ve seen the whole year and a half that I’ve been working at Homegrown.

    One of my coworkers was written up for calling out or leaving early due to her medical issues. She had doctor’s notes for every time she needed to leave, which our manager said she didn’t need to give, yet still wrote her up for that. During this time of what felt like a rush of write-ups, I received my first two write-ups, and I had never been written up before this time.

    Then in October, we were having staffing shortages, so my coworkers and I decided to delegate our manager, demanding that he hire more folks because we were losing hours. We were having to choose between closing early or working twice as hard for the same pay, and my coworkers know their worth. And so, most of the time we would be losing out on pay, which is totally messed up.

    The next week, I was very blatantly unjustly fired. That same day, all my coworkers walked out with me to fight for my job. We’ve been on strike since, and in an amazing action of solidarity, our Southcenter coworkers joined us on strike as well.

    Perry:

    When we went on strike at Southcenter Homegrown, the Redmond location had been on strike for about three and a half weeks. We went out on Black Friday last year, which was supposed to be the most profitable day that the company was expecting for our location, because we’re in the mall. We’re in the Southcenter Mall at Tukwila. And so, busiest shopping day of the year, and we shut it down because we wanted to see Sydney’s job back. We were really upset that a strong union leader like her would be fired for ridiculous allegations.

    The thing that we were thinking over in our shop was, look, if they can fire Sydney, they could come after any one of us at our store, because we’re a really strong shop in our union and got some really strong fighters and coworkers over here. And if they could go after Sydney, they could go after any of us. And so, we decided we got to go out there with Sydney and stand in solidarity because this is totally unfair.

    Maximillian Alvarez:

    Well, and of course we are talking together as this strike is ongoing, as you all are still fighting for that first union contract over a year after you voted to unionize. You are all in the midst of fighting to get Sydney’s job back. So just as a disclaimer to folks out there listening, there’s a lot here that is still in process, and for legal purposes, we don’t want to compromise anyone here.

    So we’re going to do follow-ups on this story as things develop, but we thought it was important that you guys know that this is happening now and why it’s happening. Of course, we’re going to include more links in the show notes for you to look deeper into this struggle, where it started and what you can do to help.

    But I wanted to go back to the beginning here, guys, and ask if we could take a step back and talk about where this all started, how we got from working on the shop floor as non-union workers in the service industry, which, as we know, has traditionally been one of, if not one of the least unionized industries and one of those industries that many unions in the past just gave up on and felt like there was never going to really be a stronghold of union workers in the service industry for reasons that we’ve talked about on this show for years.

    They are typically looked at as low-wage, transient jobs that people don’t have for a long time. So it’s hard to build a union campaign. All the lingering cultural misconceptions that we have about service work as being only done by people in high school or people with a part-time job.

    I think we’ve come a long way over the past few years to people recognizing that none of those are as true as we thought they were, and also none of those are a good excuse for workers not getting paid what they deserve, having the job stability that they deserve, and exercising their right to unionize, as we’ve seen workers from Starbucks to Chipotle to you all trying to exercise that right. I think that that’s really exciting to see after so many years of not seeing it in the service industry.

    I wanted to ask if you could take us back to before you all voted to unionize. Talk to us more about what that work entails, like how you got into working at Homegrown, what Homegrown is. I guess, for those of us who don’t live in the Pacific Northwest, give us a little sense about what that job entails, what the clientele’s like, what you all do on a day-to-day, week-to-week basis. Give our listeners a sense … People who have never worked at Homegrown themselves. Let us know what it’s like for you all and how that work began to percolate discussions amongst you all about unionizing.

    Sydney Lankford:

    I started working at Homegrown for their reputation of sustainability. They’re called Homegrown Sustainable Sandwiches. What I realized after a bit of time of working there is they’re not actually sustainable for their workers. We make sandwiches and salad bowls. It’s a cafe style restaurant. We have self-serve kiosks. That’s how we run the place. Very normal food service stuff. We have cleaning chores. We all learn every single station. That’s how it goes.

    Perry:

    Imagine like a really fancy Subway/Quiznos/Panera Bread all bundled into one. We serve hot sandwiches that we make all behind the line, in addition to the salads that Sydney mentioned.

    Perry:

    … in addition to the salads that Sydney mentioned, we also have soups and stuff. The whole premise is that the food is supposed to be really high quality. It’s really marketed as organic, a really wholesome type of product. And so a lot of the customers go to Homegrown thinking that they’re going to be getting a sandwich that’s sustainably made, that’s good for the environment, that this business is a good steward to nature and to the environment. And so, part of getting a sandwich made with high quality ingredients, the customers come thinking that they are being ecologically responsible. But as Sydney mentioned, a lot of the work that we do is not very sustainable for us, as the workers, day in day out. It’s a really tough job making thousands of sandwiches every day. The Homegrown itself is also not just a restaurant side, but there’s also a whole catering business in addition to a wholesale production that we can talk more about later.

    But there’s also a back of house kitchen that does large scale orders. Most of the storefronts, it’s usually younger folks like ourselves who are making the sandwiches and salads for people who come in for their lunch break or for dinner rush. But then at the location I used to work at before Southcenter, which was the Mercer Island location, you had a whole production kitchen in the back, which was mostly older adults, immigrant workers with families and kids, and they would work early mornings to the afternoons making sandwiches and salads for huge parties and corporate orders and stuff like that. And so there’s multiple sides to this business that isn’t just the cafe, restaurant storefronts.

    Sydney Lankford:

    I want to also add that, Perry, you talk about how families work here, as well as people who just support themselves. This is their job, this is how they make their livelihood. And if we’re talking about what it’s like working at Homegrown, Homegrown’s base pay is 16.75 and Seattle area rent is super high. So it’s a pretty big fact of life that anyone who works here and supports themselves are only a few paychecks away from homelessness. We don’t get tips on DoorDash, which is the most profitable revenue stream for the company. And in an eight-hour workday, we only get two 10 minute breaks. And if we choose, we can clock out for a 30-minute break. But many of us don’t choose that, because we have bills to pay. So in an eight-hour day, most of us get 20 minutes to sit down and take a breath.

    And even then, before we fought for better ventilation, the smoke in the store was so bad, it would be hard to breathe sometimes. Our oven used to rest at 575 degrees Fahrenheit. We had coworkers who were having symptoms ranging from burning eyes to asthma attacks and dry heaving in the bathroom. We got an air quality monitor at the beginning of our union campaign to get a measurement of what we were already feeling inside our bodys, which is that the air quality monitor was reading at like 200 parts per millimeter as soon as we turned the oven on, 300 as we started making sandwiches, and then 400, 500 all the way up to 900, 1000 during peak rush.

    And the healthy levels for good breathable air is below a hundred ppm. So, that’s pretty awful. And then the shop also gets super hot, and I know, Perry, you have this at Southcenter as well, the AC just doesn’t work really well. And so during peak summer, it’ll get up to 80, 90, 100 degrees in the shop. And we used to have to decide whether we should open the doors to let in warm air, so we can get the smoke out of the shop, or stay just a bit cooler and just breathe in a bunch of smoke filled air. And of course, when it gets too hot, the smoke won’t even leave when we open the door. So, it’s just something we’re living with. And yeah, that sucks. And workers should not have to deal with a choice like that.

    Perry:

    Yeah. To paint a really vivid picture, I started working at the Mercer Island location, that was the first shop I worked at. This building that the store was in, it was in a strip mall, didn’t have functional AC. It was like a token AC system. And so, Seattle has this reputation for being a relatively cool place. If you’ve never been to Seattle, you’d think that it rains all the time, that the summers are really mild, that it’s only 75 degrees at the height of the summer. Well, when I started working there around the late spring, summer of 2022, this is the first time when Washington and Western Washington and Seattle have been experiencing extreme heat waves due to climate change. We have a fire season every summer in autumn now. And so the stores would just get up to extreme temperatures like 95 one day. And Mercer Island is a busy store. We would get hundreds of orders within 30 minutes during the lunch rush.

    And I remember my coworkers and myself just behind the line, just sweating, dripping behind the line. And I had coworkers who had to walk to the bathroom and they would just huddle there, feeling nauseous. And I remember shaking every single day that I was working in that kind of temperature. And every time we asked, “When can we get functional AC? When can we get working AC?” We would get nothing. They would say, the management would tell us, “Oh, we’re so sorry. We will do our best.” And all they would do is put these little tiny battery powered fans or these really pitiful fans around the store, which would do nothing. But then we can’t even get the air to flow, because of the fire season, like I mentioned. And so when the wildfires come in, you can’t open the doors, you can’t open the windows or else you’re just going to be choking on the ash from outside.

    And so climate change has really affected Seattle and it’s no longer this cool, moderate climate place that everyone thinks it is. It’s just like everywhere else in the country that is experiencing extreme climate catastrophe and environmental disaster. And the company has taken no responsibility for giving us a safe workplace. I, myself, almost felt like I was going to pass out. I had to go stand in the fridge with my coworkers for an extra 15 minutes on one of those really horrible days in the summer. And those are just some of the many things that we’ve been fighting for change over. That’s why one of the reasons why we wanted to unionize is because it’s not fair to us to be working in these extreme environmental situations when the company keeps putting forward this image that it’s environmentally responsible.

    Maximillian Alvarez:

    And then on top of that, you add what Sidney was saying, the fact that you’re doing that work for a wage that means that you can basically barely afford rent in a place like Seattle. And to say nothing about the inflationary costs that we’ve all been dealing with for the past two years, the cost of living keeps going up. This is really making me have traumatic flashbacks to the different service jobs that I worked in the past. I’m thinking about those hot kitchens when I was a waiter in Chicago. I’m thinking about in Southern California when I was working at a pizza place and the air conditioning broke down and I wanted to just… I thought I was going to quit right there, because I was like, “How is anyone supposed to survive, and let alone how are we supposed to make food in a place where we’re all sweating our asses off and the cook is about to faint?”

    But this is par for the course. This is what so many service industry workers go through on a day-to-day basis and have gone through for years and years, and decades and decades. And yet, as I mentioned before, the thought of workers in that industry, taking that step to do something about it, to organize collectively and exercise their right to unionize, to negotiate with management a better contract that puts in writing that, “Hey, we need these working conditions for people to be able to work here safely and to do so without putting their health at hazard, so that we can retain good workers and we don’t lose workers, because of all the turnover that happens when you’re dealing with working conditions like this.”

    I wanted to talk about that. I wanted to basically ask if you guys could talk us through how the union drive itself grew and how you all landed on this as an option, because I’ve shared this story many times on this show. Back when I was doing my service industry jobs, to say nothing of the warehouse jobs and factory jobs and what have you, I never thought that there was another option for me besides stay and deal with it, or quit and go and try to find some other job. But that of course has been changing in recent years and it’s been really exciting here on the show to talk to so many folks like yourselves who are making that change happen. And so I just wanted to ask where that came from, what the discussions about unionization were? Were you seeing the Starbucks stores, or hearing about Amazon? Or was this something that y’all came up with on your own? Just tell us a little more about where the unionization drive got started and how it grew to the point that you successfully voted to unionize in late December 2022?

    Sydney Lankford:

    For my personal, why am I fighting for a union? One of my favorite chants that we do, and it’s taken a while to get to chants like these, is, “Homegrowns worried about profits and losses. We want power, take it from the bosses.” And that is a great, a great description for the awakening of your working class consciousness, that we should not settle for what we’ve been handed, that we fought for an eight-hour day. We fought for this, that, and the other, and we can fight for so much more. And that is where the union drive came for me. We started talking to our coworkers about unionizing in May of 2022, and then secretly, we got folks signed up on union cards. When we were at a super majority, we went public. We had a big delegation at the corporate office and demanded voluntary recognition.

    Perry:

    I had been working for Homegrown for a couple months when I started hearing about folks wanting..

    Perry:

    … months when I started hearing about folks wanting to unionize, I was all for it. For one, I was already seeing a lot of mistreatment at work at Mercer Island. A lot of my coworkers were feeling pushed around to perform really hard on super busy days and making just so much product for the customers while the pay itself just wasn’t great. On top of the weather getting warmer and warmer in those early months, folks were just being burned out and everyone was talking about needing a change. And I remember my shift lead at the time, my coworker, she was approaching everyone in the shop talking about, “Hey, we’re tired of working these long hours, this hard for this little pay. We deserve so much better. And we’re talking about forming a union, organizing.” And I was super excited. I’d always heard about unions being really cool and I’ve never been a part of one.

    But the mood in those couple of months before it went public was pretty electric. We were just meeting altogether outside of work in Mercer Island talking about what we wanted to see changed. This was even before it got really hot, but we were talking about how… I think it was the summer of 2021. It was a really hot year in that summer too, plus COVID, right? People who were working at the time were really sickened by the heat, but also really worried about their health. And so we were talking about having a healthy and safe workplace at our shop at Mercer Island in addition to fighting for better pay because we heard that other food service jobs in Seattle that were unionized could make up to $20 an hour or $21 doing the same type of work that we were doing, but we were only making a little over 16 bucks.

    Maximillian Alvarez:

    Just to make sure that listeners got that basic information right, you all and your coworkers at Homegrown on the cafe side, you all voted to unionize with an overwhelming majority in December of 2022, and that was a month after workers at Catapult Northwest who were on the distribution side of this, voted to unionize as well. Do I have that right?

    Sydney Lankford:

    Yes.

    Maximillian Alvarez:

    Okay. And so that’s, again, incredible that y’all in the service industry won this union election in 2022 as a pandemic is still going on. That’s an incredible feat in and of itself. But as we know, sadly, labor law in this country sucks. And the deck is overwhelmingly stacked in favor of the bosses when it comes to workers not only achieving an NLRB Union election, but then going… That’s kind of where the work just gets started because then you got to get to that first contract. And there are so many ways that management can stall at the bargaining table, can delay, can demoralize, can frustrate that momentum that workers have.

    I mean, we’re here talking in February of 2024. None of the Starbucks stores have a first contract yet. The Amazon Labor Union does not have a contract with Amazon yet. I mean like Pittsburgh Post-Gazette workers have been on strike for a year and a half, and management is just stalling and breaking labor law, not bargaining in good faith because they can, because labor law in this country does and the lack of enforcement of labor law in this country means bosses can basically do whatever they want with very minimal repercussions. Meanwhile, workers like yourselves are fighting tooth and nail to get the contract that you deserve.

    So I wanted to focus in on that side of things really quick. And again, when I say bosses can stall at the bargaining table, they can break labor law, I’m speaking generally, right? I’m speaking as someone who talks to different kinds of workers around the country week in, week out. So I’m speaking for myself there. I’m speaking in general terms based on what I have seen, based on the examples that I just gave. I’m not necessarily saying that that is what Homegrown management is doing here. I will leave you all to give us the information that you can about how bargaining is going over there.

    But as we know, workers who are trying to unionize and get to that first contract have a very steep uphill battle. That’s what I’m trying to get across. And you all have been trying to get to that first contract for over a year now. So I was wondering if you could just give our listeners a bit of a sense of what you are really fighting for to get in writing with this first contract. What are the key issues that you’re trying to enshrine in that union contract, and how has bargaining been going over the past year and few months?

    Sydney Lankford:

    Yeah, we’ve been fighting for a contract for a year, and we’re not going to win everything that is rightfully ours. We make way more value for the company than they will ever give us back. But we have a really kick-ass contract so far. We’re currently fighting for the last two things, which are my reinstatement and successorship, successorship that matches the length of the contract. So, we’re super close.

    Perry:

    I can talk a little bit about some of the things that we’ve gotten in our contract negotiations so far, but also talk about why it took so long to get to this point.

    Sydney Lankford:

    Hell, yeah.

    Perry:

    So when we first went public with forming a union in June 2022, that summer, the company was doing everything they could to basically ignore us and avoid us as much as possible. They pretended like, “Oh, we hear you, we see you, and we’re so sorry that you don’t feel good about working here.” Basically saying, “Please don’t form a union, but here’s 50 cents.” Or I think it was like 25 cents, a raise. They gave us 25 or 50 cents after we went public, and they refused to recognize our union for that entire summer and fall, even though we were demanding voluntary recognition. We had to call an election and that’s why we had to vote in December of 2022 and overwhelmingly won.

    But that whole time, the company was just pretending like we didn’t exist, that we were just a bunch of crazy folks who were a bunch of radicals and trying to ruin a good thing because so many other service jobs that try to paint a good public image, they say like, “Oh, we’re family. You can always come to us if you have issues. You don’t need to organize or to form a union. That’s like a third party that just wants to get in the way of our relationship. We may not give you any assistance when it’s hot. We may not give you any fans or working AC in the stores when it’s scorching hot outside in the summer, but please don’t form a union. We love you as our workers.”

    But the thing that we were fighting for was the right to not work on extreme heat days, the right to get our hours covered when it’s over 85, 90 degrees in the store. Or if we did work on a hot day approaching those temperatures, we would get double pay or time and a half. We were fighting for tips on our DoorDash orders because DoorDash is such a huge thing in the industry now. There are hundreds of orders that are through DoorDash, and we get no tips on any of those. There’s a very narrow window that you can get tips on those orders, and the majority of those orders are just, you get no tips.

    So we’re making basically hundreds of sandwiches and salads for free compared to the in-person orders. We were demanding tips on our DoorDash orders. We were demanding a higher base pay so that we would be able to survive living in the Seattle area. A lot of our coworkers are commuting from far out of the Seattle Metro from cities that were 30, 40 miles away, like an hour long commute where rent is a little cheaper just to work at Homegrown. And that was just horrible for them, those long commutes, but also just for such paltry pay. But this was everywhere in the industry. And so the way we were thinking about it is we honestly, we could just go and leave and look for another job elsewhere, but where else would be any better? This is the food service industry, and this is where so many of us are just at right now. Why not fight for a fair contract and protections?

    Another thing that we fought for was protections for our coworkers who are immigrants, who are worried about being retaliated against by the management. They’re fearful that ICE could get sent on them. We also fought for better health standards, so air quality monitors. We’re fighting for air filters in the stores, like actual smoke eaters that will take the dirty kitchen air and process it and make it a lot more breathable for us. We also are fighting for fair discipline rules because we could get written up for literally anything, like there’s no consistency in how rules are enforced, and sometimes management would pick on coworkers and bully them. I had a lot of coworkers at the stores I worked at that felt terrible every day because the managers would single them out for really petty things, and they had no way of protecting themselves. There’s no shop stewards that they could go to, to say like, “Hey, I’m being mistreated by the management. I’m being bullied, being told to work harder and faster for nothing basically.”

    This one time my manager at Mercer Island, this was the first or second week I was working there. There was no reason to be rushing. It was a really calm time at the store, but my manager, for some reason, felt comfortable enough to turn to me and whisper into my ear like, “By the way, I told those folks at the other end of the line to speed it up just because I wanted to.” And she laughed at me and it was like, why did you feel comfortable telling me this? What kind of place is this talking about sustainable sandwiches and they’re treating the workers this way. These are some of the things that we’re fighting for for protections in our contract, a lot of which we have now in our bargaining, but it’s taken so long because it took a year to get to union recognition. And then it’s been a year since we started negotiating and it’s been a very slow process, which Sydney can talk about too.

    Sydney Lankford:

    Yeah, Perry, we fought and won pretty much everything that you talked about, except for the exception of the AQI monitors, but everything else we-

    Sydney Lankford:

    The exception of the AQI monitors, but everything else we want just pretty kick ass of us if I do say so myself.

    Maximillian Alvarez:

    Hell yeah, by which you mean these are bargaining items that have been agreed to?

    Perry:

    Yeah.

    Sydney Lankford:

    Yeah, they have been TA’ed.

    Maximillian Alvarez:

    Hell yeah. That’s amazing. I mean, to hear that these are issues that you’ve been fighting for at the bargaining table and that these are now items that have been approved in the contract that you’re working out. So we are sending all of y’all our love and solidarity as you continue to fight to get that first contract finalized, to get it instated and also in the fight to get Sydney’s job reinstated. So I wanted to just build on that and round the final turn here because I’m so grateful to you both for taking this much time to talk to us. But I know you’re busy. It’s a Sunday night.

    I’m still in quarantine with Covid, but overall doing all right, but if folks are listening and wondering why I sound a little weird, that’s why. But just to wrap things up here, I just wanted to ask if we could circle back to where things stand now and also what folks out there in the Seattle area, so folks who are near you all, where can they go to support you on these pickets? What can folks online do? What can folks listening do to support y’all in this fight? And do you have any parting words that you want to leave listeners with before we wrap up?

    Sydney Lankford:

    Just to hop back really quick to a point that Perry talked about in our contract, we won heat pay, which we get when it’s over 84 degrees in the shop, we get time and a half and over 86 we get double time, which means it encourages the company to actually make sure that the AC works and not something, I’m not sure any food service workers have seen in their union contracts and many other people, which is amazing.

    Maximillian Alvarez:

    So the heat pay that you guys got in the contract, again, you’re still finalizing the contract, but this item to address the heat conditions that we talked about earlier means that you’re going to get paid time and a half when it’s 84 degrees in the store and you’re going to get paid double time if and when it’s 86 degrees. That’s really incredible. I don’t recall hearing a similar contract provision, especially in the service industry. I’ll definitely go and check, but that’s what you’re describing. That you have time and a half or double time pay pegged to how hot it actually is in the store.

    Sydney Lankford:

    Yeah. Yep.

    Maximillian Alvarez:

    That’s really remarkable. So I just wanted to underline that for listeners and I’m glad that you brought us back to clarify that because I do think that that’s a really, really significant advancement in this struggle to get that contract. So kudos to you all and hell yeah. Just I guess take us around the final turn. Where are things now with getting to that first contract, getting Sydney’s job back, and what can folks out there listening do to help?

    Perry:

    So even though we’ve won pretty much everything we want in our contract, aside from successorship right now, the last thing we need before we can feel good about signing the contract is to get Sydney her job back because we don’t want to go back into a shop where go back to work after the strike with a contract and our co-worker, Sydney is not with us. That’s basically what’s been holding up the process is that the company has been refusing to give you your job back.

    Sydney Lankford:

    Yeah. Ways you can support are making this really public. Post this on Instagram @homegrown, say that you support workers, that you want my reinstatement back, that they’re not allowed to fire union leaders for helping organize.

    Perry:

    Yeah. Well, the help that we need right now is support with our community strike fund on GoFundMe. That’s been keeping a lot of us afloat during the strike. We get strike pay from our union, but it’s not always enough. One thing that’s really kept us moving is the community support from other unions, other folks who want to be in solidarity with us, helping us to keep the lights on basically as we’re out there every day, rain or shine in the Seattle winter and autumn on strike. We also have a community petition too. That petition is going to go directly to the company, to the CEO, Brad Gillis, where the community can voice their support to reinstate Sydney’s job back so that we can just get back to work knowing that strong union leaders like Sydney are protected and can’t be pushed around by this company.

    So after we won our election, it was start of 2023 started last year. The company had been using a union busting firm to really try and shut us down to stall out the negotiations, but we kept fighting hard throughout all of last year to have good faith negotiations and things took a really long time to get to where we’re at, which is unfortunate. We could have had a fair contract start of last year, but the company had been spending so much energy trying to shut us down to divide us to use their lawyers and their union busting firm to basically liquidate us. But we held strong and we actually struck a few times. Over the summer when it got really hot we walked out over heat and smoke and that really pushed the company to really concede on a lot of things because we really hurt their bottom line, which it was so crazy to see it happen in real time.

    One moment they’re like, “Oh, we’re giving you all that we can. This is the best final offer we can give you.” Then we went on strike for the heat and the smoke and they’re like, “Actually, we can give you all these things now.” And we were like, “Oh wow, okay.” So going on strike and fighting hard and struggling in the shop really delivers the goods and move the needle. So many times where the company would just say like, “Oh, this is the furthest we can go. We’ll never be able to get you a $20 base pay.” Now we have a $20 base pay. We’ll never give you heat pay. Now we have heat pay. We’ll never give you all sorts of different things. But we got them through fighting and struggling and being persistent by never letting go of our co-workers, like making sure we all stayed unified.

    We all stayed together to fight the hardest that we could for this contract. And another thing too is that we’re really excited that this contract, we want to see change across the entire industry, not just here at Homegrown. And the way that we’re seeing things develop now is like other unions or other shops within Local 8 Unite here are sibling unions from other food service shops. They’re seeing what we’ve got on our contract. They’re seeing the heat pay and they’re saying, “Hey, we want that too. We want that in our contract.” And if we could set a precedent in not just Washington, but around the country of what the standard for a unionized food service job could be, that’s what we want to see. That’s the change we want to see, not just here at our shops, but around the whole industry. And so that the working class in this industry has a fighting chance.

    Sydney Lankford:

    That’s the revolutionary spirit, Perry. I like it.

    Maximillian Alvarez:

    All right gang, that’s going to wrap things up for us. I want to thank Perry and Sydney from Homegrown Workers Union for talking to us today. And as always, I want to thank you all for listening and thank you for caring about this. We’ll see y’all back here next week for another episode of Working People. And if you cannot wait that long, then go subscribe to our Patreon and check out the awesome bonus episodes that we’ve got there waiting for you and for our great patrons, and go explore all the great work that we’re doing at The Real News Network where we do grassroots journalism that lifts up the voices and stories from the front lines of struggle here in the US and around the world. You can sign up for The Real News newsletter so you never miss a story. Help us do more work like this by going to therealnews.com/donate and becoming a supporter today. This is Maximillian Alvarez signing off. Take care of yourselves. Take care of each other. Solidarity forever.

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  • Major automakers including Toyota, General Motors, Tesla, BYD and Volkswagen may be using aluminum made by Ugyhur forced labor in China and have failed to minimize this possibility, Human Rights Watch said in a report.

    Nearly 10% of the world’s aluminum is produced in Xinjiang, in China’s northwest, where Uyghurs and other minorities are subjected to forced labor in detention centers or through Chinese government-backed labor transfer programs that Beijing says are to alleviate poverty, according to the 99-page report, “Asleep at the Wheel: Car Companies’ Complicity in Forced Labor in China.”

    Engine blocks, vehicle frames, wheels, lithium-ion battery foils and other components may contain aluminum from these facilities or joint-ventures that these major carmakers have with Chinese companies, said New York-based Human Rights Watch, or HRW. 

    The rights group acknowledged that the origins of aluminum from Xinjiang are difficult to trace because the metal is sent to other parts of China, where it is melted down and made into alloys that enter global supply chains undetected.

    “Aluminum from Xinjiang ends up being mixed in larger quantities of aluminum, where then you can no longer trace the origin, and that makes traceability extremely difficult,” said Adrian Zenz, director of China Studies at the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation in Washington. He was not involved in producing the HRW report.

    “What the report indicates is that carmakers need to really consider divesting from China a lot of their production and sourcing because the Chinese supply chains are inevitably tainted,” he said. “The report indicates that carmakers are not taking not even close to taking the steps that are necessary to reduce the exposure to Uyghur forced labor.” 

    Caved in

    HRW said despite the risk of exposure to forced labor through Xinjiang’s aluminum, some car manufacturers in China have given in to government pressure “to apply weaker human rights and responsible sourcing standards at their Chinese joint ventures than in their global operations.” 

    “Most companies have done too little to map their supply chains for aluminum parts and identify and address potential links to Xinjiang,” The rights group said. “Confronted with an opaque aluminum industry and the threat of Chinese government reprisals for investigating links to Xinjiang, carmakers in many cases remain unaware of the extent of their exposure to forced labor.”

    Toyota said in an email to Radio Free Asia that its “core value of respect for people permeates all that we do, including deep regard for human rights and how we conduct business as a global enterprise.” It said it expects its suppliers to follow its lead to respect human rights, and that it would closely review the HRW report.

    GAC Toyota Motor Co., Ltd., based in Guangzhou, and FAW Toyota Motor Co., Ltd., based in Tianjin, are Toyota’s auto manufacturing joint ventures in China.

    A SAIC Volkswagen plant is seen in the outskirts of Urumqi, capital of northwestern China's Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region, April 22, 2021. (Mark Schiefelbein/AP)
    A SAIC Volkswagen plant is seen in the outskirts of Urumqi, capital of northwestern China’s Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region, April 22, 2021. (Mark Schiefelbein/AP)

    General Motors, which produced 2.1 million vehicles in China in 2023, told RFA that it  recognizes the importance of responsible sourcing practices, as outlined in its Supplier Code of Conduct

    “GM remains committed to conducting due diligence and working collaboratively with industry partners, stakeholders and organizations to continuously evaluate and address any potential violation in our supply chain,” the statement said.

    The U.S. carmaker has 10 joint ventures, two wholly-owned foreign enterprises and more than 58,000 employees in China. The joint ventures sell passenger and commercial vehicles under the Cadillac, Buick, Chevrolet, Wuling and Baojun brands.

    Genocide

    The United States and other Western countries have determined that China is committing genocide against the predominantly Muslim Uyghurs and other Turkic peoples who live there. As a result, the United States, the European Union and other countries have enacted or are considering laws banning the import of products linked to forced labor.   

    Because of the size of China’s domestic auto market and the need to compete, the five named carmakers have “succumbed to Chinese government pressure to apply weaker human rights and responsible sourcing standards at their Chinese joint ventures than in their global operations, increasing the risk of exposure to forced labor in Xinjiang,” the report said.

    HRW mined open-source, online materials, including company reports, Chinese government documents, state-run media reports and social media posts to find links between Xinjiang, aluminum producers and labor transfers.

    Rush hour traffic in Beijing’s central business district, June 13, 2023. (Mark Schiefelbein/AP)
    Rush hour traffic in Beijing’s central business district, June 13, 2023. (Mark Schiefelbein/AP)

    China, the world’s largest car exporter in 2023 and a manufacturing and supplier base for domestic and global car brands, produced and exported more cars than any other country in 2023 as well as made and exported billions of dollars of parts used by international carmakers.

    Volkswagen, which has a 50% stake in a joint venture with Chinese carmaker SAIC and operates a distribution center in Xinjiang’s capital Urumqi, said in an email statement to RFA that it takes “its responsibility as a company in the area of human rights very seriously worldwide — including in China.”

    “The Volkswagen Group adheres closely to the U.N. Guiding Principles on Business and Human Rights,” it said. “These are part of the company’s Code of Conduct. Volkswagen takes a firm stand against forced labor in connection with its business activities worldwide.”

    Seeks compliance

    The automaker also said it works to ensure compliance with these values along the supply chain and has a careful global partner and supplier selection process and monitoring measures in place.

    “Suppliers in the People’s Republic of China that are commissioned directly by the Volkswagen Group are already in the scope of sustainable procurement measures and are committed to complying with our Code of Conduct for Business Partners,” the company said.

    “Serious violations, such as forced labor, can lead to termination of the contract with the supplier if no remedial action is taken,” it said. “We are therefore actively reviewing and using our existing procedures and looking for new solutions to prevent forced labor in our supply chain.”

    Electric cars recharge their batteries at Tesla charging stations in Beijing, Jan. 4, 2022. (Ng Han Guan/AP)
    Electric cars recharge their batteries at Tesla charging stations in Beijing, Jan. 4, 2022. (Ng Han Guan/AP)

    Tesla, whose factory in Shanghai produces vehicles for the Chinese market and for export, told the rights group that it had mapped its aluminum supply chain in several cases but had not found evidence of forced labor. However, the company did not specify how much of the aluminum in its cars remains of unknown origin.

    Unlike other foreign carmakers that operate in China, Tesla wholly owns its Gigafactory in Shanghai—the first such arrangement allowed by the Chinese government. The company has land-use rights for an initial term of 50  years.

    Neither Tesla nor China’s BYD, headquartered in Shenzhen, replied to RFA’s requests for comment.

    Companies involved in joint ventures have a responsibility under the U.N. Guiding Principles to use their leverage to address the risk of forced labor in the joint venture’s supply chain, HRW said.

    The responses by the car manufacturers are “very inadequate,” said Maya Wang, the associate director in HRW’s Asia division.

    “Because of the environment of political intimidation and harassment and surveillance, it’s really difficult to conduct due diligence because [if] you talk with the workers [about whether or not they are subjected to forced labor, could they possibly respond without fear?” Wang asked. 

    “What we want to see are laws and regulations from governments like the EU, which currently has due diligence legislation to exactly deal with state-sponsored or state-organized forced labor,” she said.

    With reporting from Jilil Kashgary for RFA Uyghur. Edited by Malcolm Foster.


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  • On January 26, 2024, a fire broke out in the Red Sea. The Marlin Luanda, a Marshall Islands-flagged fuel tanker carrying highly flammable naphtha, was en route to Singapore when it was struck by an anti-ship missile approximately 60 nautical miles southeast of Aden, Yemen. The missile attack on the Marlin Luanda started a fire in one of the ship’s cargo tanks, prompting nearby United States…

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  • Several thousand government workers are on the streets of India demanding restoration of the old pension structure. The new structure has no fixed pensions. The movement that was going on for nearly a decade grew phenomenally across the country last year with multiple opposition leaders expressing their support. There were many protest events in New Delhi, the national capital, in the last few months of 2023. With the ruling Bharatiya Janata Party government showing no interest in going back to a fixed pension model, the protests continue to grow. As Manjneek Kaur of the National Movement For Old Pension says, “Till we achieve our goal this struggle will continue again and again. Be it in the form of rallies, localised protests or in any other form.” TRNN contributor and video journalist Dipanjan Sinha reports from the streets of New Delhi.

    This story, with the support of the Bertha Foundation, is part of The Real News Network’s Workers of the World series, telling the stories of workers around the globe

    Producer, Translator, Editor: Dipanjan Sinha
    Videographer, Editor: Mohit Sauda


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    Manjeet Singh Patel, president, National Movement for Old Pension: If the movement is on, we will get back the old pension. Right here, from Delhi.

    Dipanjan Sinha (narrator): Workers from central and state governments of India have been protesting India’s new pension scheme for years now.

    Workers sloganeering: We want pension

    Minsters are taking pension and giving us tension

    Samay Singh Meena, government school teacher: There 85 lakh government employees who are not getting pensions (the older pension), whereas the MPs and MLAs are getting four or five older pensions. 

    Pema Bhutia, president, National Movement for Old Pension (Sikkim state): We have appealed multiple times for the older pension scheme. We told them that we are not (financially) secure after retirement but they don’t listen to us.

    Dipanjan Sinha (narrator): This year, the movement has gained momentum with multiple state governments declaring their support for the old pension structure.

    Manjeet Singh Patel, president, National Movement for Old Pension: Every person gathered here has just one wish that their security for old age, their pension be given to them. Apart from this we have no other agenda. 

    Manjeet Singh Patel, president, National Movement for Old Pension: People who were in jobs earlier, before NPS, before 2004, used to have qualifying service years. Central government employees had a qualifying service of 10 years.

    So if you joined and completed 10 years, after that you retire anytime. Say you joined a service at 50 and retired at 60, you would start getting a pension that is half of your last drawn salary and dearness allowance. You keep getting a pension in this pattern till you are alive.

    Every 10 years there is a pay commission. This pay commission restructures the salary. The salary doubles trebles or increases by whatever factor. And just the way the salary increases, pension increases the same way.

    So now the government has done away with that system under the NPS (new pension scheme). The people joining jobs (after 2004) have 10 percent of their basic salary and dearness allowance deducted every month.

    Dipanjan Sinha (narrator): Under the new pension scheme, there are two contributions made to the pension fund. One from the employee’s salary and the other from the government. This fund is then invested in the market. 

    When the employee retires, the accumulated fund which has grown in the market is used to pay the employee’s pension. This subjects pension funds to the ups and downs of the market, which means there is no guarantee of a fixed pension amount like earlier. 

    Workers sloganeering: One demand, one slogan. OPS is our right.  

    Manjneek Kaur, president, All-India NPS Employee Federation, Chandigarh: Working women have obviously helped in the democratisation of the society. To come out of their houses women need jobs. 

    Right now, the thing is, when we are talking about security, men have paternal properties, they can own so many things from their paternal homes. For women, though legally we can inherit our parent’s house, but if we check the data on the ground, less than 1 percent of women own properties in this country. 

    So for their future, pension and government jobs play a very important role.  

    Especially in cases of widows or single mothers, the pension amount becomes very helpful in their old age. It is because of this amount that they can live well into their old age.

    Pema Bhutia, president, National Movement for Old Pension (Sikkim state): Now when we will retire, with only 6 percent we will get around Rs 500 to 1400 on average. In our service, around 1200 employees have retired and they get a pension of as low as Rs 1400. This is why NPS is not secure.

    Manjeet Singh Patel, president, National Movement for Old Pension: Consider this, each bank gets Rs 4,000 crore every month. (pension money) They invest this money in the market and run their business. If NPS is stopped, they will stop getting this amount. 

    Secondly, the 10 lakh crore that has been invested in the market will also need to be pulled back. So the market forces, the corporate sector, the bankers are putting pressure on the government   to not withdraw the NPS scheme. 

    This is one important reason; otherwise perhaps we would not need to do so many protests. At some level there is a lot of influence from the corporations on the government.

    Dipanjan Sinha (narrator): In the last few months, the country saw rallies and sporadic strikes of several thousand workers in different states and the national capital.  

    The workers are demanding restoration of the old pension scheme. This entitles an employee to a pension equal to 50 per cent of their last drawn salary. According to them, even at the highest, the new pension equals barely 20 percent of the last salary.

    Manjeet Singh Patel, president, National Movement for Old Pension: So we started looking for affected people in different states. People who were motivated and aware. There were some people already working on this in Himachal Pradesh, in Punjab, in UP (Uttar Pradesh), Karnataka, Andhra, Telangana, Maharashtra,  Haryana…so we all got together and gave it the shape of a national movement.

    On April 30, 2018, we all came together and organised our first rally in Ramlila Maidan (Delhi).  

    Dipanjan Sinha (narrator): In 2018, chief minister of Delhi, Arvind Kejriwal, came out in support of the old pension scheme. Though this did not mean much technically, it was a great morale booster for the movement across the country. Since then chief ministers of multiple states have come out in support of the old pension scheme. 

    Yogen Tamang, forest department, Sikkim: From today, from this rally, we are hoping that soon we will get a positive news from our central government.

    Dipanjan Sinha (narrator): The goal of the movement now is an assured pension for every worker. They want to go back to the older pension scheme under which every government employee got a pension which was 50 per cent of their last drawn salary and an additional dearness allowance for the rest of their lives. 

    The protests have led to the union finance ministry setting up a committee in April this year to suggest improvements. 

    Manjneek Kaur, president, All-India NPS Employee Federation, Chandigarh: Till we achieve our goal this struggle will continue again and again. Be it in the form of rallies, localised protests or in any other form. We just want one thing and that is an assured pension and till we achieve that we will continue our struggle.

    Dipanjan Sinha (narrator): While the report is yet to come, the central government has ruled out the possibility of going back to the earlier scheme. The protests, however, continue to grow. 

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  • Mansur Arief never imagined himself working in mining. As an artificial intelligence researcher finishing a PhD at Carnegie Mellon University, he developed safety algorithms for self-driving cars. But then he took a postdoctoral position at Stanford University, where he met Jef Caers, the director of the new research program Mineral-X. Caers’ program seeks to reinvent mining for the clean energy economy by using advanced data science tools to help companies find and extract critical minerals like lithium in a more sustainable manner — and by developing protocols to engage local communities at the exploration phase, so they can decide whether or not new mining should be permitted on their land.

    Arief was fascinated to discover that his skillset — developing AI algorithms that make complex decisions from real-world data — could be applied to searching for the minerals desperately needed to build out clean energy technology. (From 2017 to 2022, demand for nickel and lithium, which are essential components in the batteries that power electric vehicles, jumped by 40 percent and 300 percent, respectively.) He’s currently involved in a Mineral-X project focused on the strategic design of critical mineral supply chains for the United States. Eventually he hopes to take on a larger role in another early-stage project that aims to reduce the mining sector’s carbon footprint in his home country, Indonesia.

    “I believe this is a new field that requires lots of attention, and it has huge potential moving forward,” Arief told Grist.

    However, Arief’s interest in mining makes him an outlier among young professionals. In the U.S., as well as other mining powerhouses like Australia and Canada, the mining industry is facing an unprecedented workforce crisis as today’s youth choose not to pursue careers in a sector they see as stagnant, hidebound, and out of touch with their values. Enrollment in university programs that train mining experts is cratering, and companies are struggling to attract new talent to replace their aging staff. The blue collar mining workforce of drillers, machine operators, and others who actually extract the minerals faces challenges, too. To beef up domestic critical minerals mining, the U.S. will likely need more of these laborers. It remains to be seen whether there are enough young people willing to replace mine workers on the brink of retirement today, much less grow the workforce to meet skyrocketing demand. 

    “Mining, and anything related to mining right now, is less attractive on average to young people,” Jim Faulds, who directs the Nevada Bureau of Mines and Geology, told Grist. 

    The mining industry’s poor reputation has arguably been earned. In many parts of the world, the industry has devastated local ecosystems, upended Indigenous communities, and exploited its workers. Yet in order to meet international targets for slowing climate change, the world needs enormous amounts of lithium, cobalt, copper, nickel, and other metals that are key ingredients in clean energy technologies. Securing these commodities could mean opening hundreds of new mines worldwide.

    To meet this need, the industry is racing to address shortages of young experts with the technical skills needed to discover mineral deposits, develop mines, and operate extraction sites. That includes the geoscientists who identify and characterize mineral deposits to help companies determine if they are economical to mine, the mining engineers who determine the best way to get mineral-rich rocks out of the ground, and the metallurgists tasked with separating minerals of interest, like cobalt, from everything else inside those rocks. Across each of these specialized fields, Faulds said, the mining industry is feeling a workforce squeeze.

    New workers “are getting scooped up immediately,” he added.

    That sort of hiring demand, Faulds said, usually translates to increased enrollment in the  technical training programs that churn out these professionals. But that’s not what’s happening. According to the American Geosciences Institute, a nonprofit umbrella organization for geoscience professional associations, 27 percent of the existing geosciences workforce is expected to retire by 2029. Without enough new graduates to replace them, the organization projects a shortage of approximately 130,000 workers by the same year.

    Not all of those lost geoscientists would have worked in mining. But given that the number of students completing degrees in mining disciplines has been falling for years — alongside the number of new faculty hires and university mining programs — experts believe a talent shortage is coming into view.

    “Anecdotally, I expect there to be a shortage [of economic geologists] in the near future if not already,” Graham Lederer, a researcher with the U.S. Geological Survey’s Geology, Energy, and Minerals Science Center in Reston, Virginia, told Grist. “Mining engineering and extractive metallurgy are facing similar, if not more severe, workforce issues.”

    Indeed, the number of mining engineering degrees awarded in the U.S. has fallen 39 percent since 2016, according to a 2023 report by the consulting firm McKinsey & Company, while the number of mining and mineral engineering programs nationwide has fallen from 25 in 1982 to just 14 today. The trends are so stark that Deborah Ross, a member of Congress representing central North Carolina, raised the problem at a recent Congressional hearing on establishing domestic supply chains of critical minerals, noting “we’ll likely not have the workforce … to fulfill our national mineral needs.” Earlier this month, the National Academies of Sciences hosted a workshop to discuss how the U.S. can meet the workforce needs of the domestic minerals sector.

    The problem isn’t limited to the U.S. Australia is the world’s top producer of the lithium needed for electric vehicle batteries, but interest in mining engineering has plunged even more precipitously there, with program enrollment falling 63 percent since 2014. In Canada, a top producer of the battery metal nickel, 70 percent of young people who responded to a recent poll said that they “probably” or “definitely” wouldn’t consider a career in mining — higher than the percentage who said they wouldn’t consider careers in oil and gas. The UK’s mining workforce is also aging fast: According to a 2022 report by the nation’s Mining Education Forum, a staggering 80 percent of mining and mineral processing engineers are now over the age of 50.

    There are a host of reasons mining has lost its luster. But a key factor experts emphasized in interviews with Grist is the industry’s reputation for polluting the planet and exploiting its workers, in a quest to dig up things we either don’t need or that are actively harmful.

    “The mining industry keeps mining coal and diamonds and gold to make money,” Caers, the Mineral-X director, told Grist. “People don’t want to get involved in that.”

    A mining engineer by training, Caers cut all ties with the oil and gas sector in 2022 to focus on critical minerals for the energy transition. He believes new technology, combined with strong environmental stewardship and socially responsible development, is key to reinvigorating youth interest in mining. Many of the students Caers works with, like Arief, have a background in computer science or artificial intelligence, and are now learning how their skills can be used to help locate new deposits of critical minerals in the enormous datasets collected by geologists.

    “There is, in fact, a lot of interest in critical minerals, and there’s lots of interest in using new technology,” Caers said. “But the mining industry doesn’t tap into that enthusiasm.”

    In addition to failing to prioritize critical minerals extraction over cash-cow commodities like gold, Caers feels that the industry at large isn’t advertising itself enough on university campuses like Stanford, which have a large number of tech-savvy students who want to work on climate solutions. 

    A few startups are bucking the trend. The most prominent is KoBold Metals, a Bill Gates-backed minerals exploration company and Silicon Valley’s first mining unicorn, a term for a privately held startup valued at over a billion dollars. KoBold, an industrial affiliate of Mineral-X that has financially backed the latter and collaborated on its research, is developing machine learning and artificial intelligence tools to scour the Earth’s crust for new deposits of lithium, copper, cobalt, and nickel. Its staff of about 200 employees includes roughly equal numbers of geoscientists, data scientists, and software engineers, according to KoBold president Josh Goldman. While a few years back recruiters at KoBold might have needed to spend a lot of time explaining why the company’s mission mattered, today “it’s in the zeitgeist,” according to Goldman. 

    “Everybody’s worried about lithium supply, everybody’s worried about copper,” he added.

    Goldman acknowledged that potential young hires often have “some hitches about joining a mining company.” But he said KoBold is typically able to assuage their concerns by explaining its ethical principles, which include only doing exploration and extraction in places where it can get strong community buy-in. “That is a very frequent topic of conversation,” Goldman said. 

    A photo of Nth Cycle’s standalone facility in Fairfield, Ohio, which is expected to begin full-scale deployment of its metal refining technology before summer 2024.
    Nth Cycle’s standalone facility in Fairfield, Ohio, is expected to begin full-scale deployment of its metal refining technology before summer 2024. Courtesy of Nth Cycle

    Another startup that’s bringing young people into the mining sector is Nth Cycle. It works with both mining and recycling companies to extract critical minerals from scrap metal, electronic waste, and mine waste using its novel “electro-extraction” technology, which replaces traditional high-heat smelting with an electricity-driven filtration process to separate and refine metals. Company founder and CEO Megan O’Connor says that the company’s 35-person staff is composed mainly of fresh-out-of-college engineers who “never thought that they would ever be in mining.” But Nth Cycle’s mission of developing more sustainable approaches to extracting and recycling the metals needed for the clean energy transition struck a chord with them.

    “We are sustainability [and] circular-economy-related, but focus on doing that for the mining industry,” O’Connor told Grist. (O’Connor was a 2022 Grist Fixer.) “That’s definitely how we’ve seen people get excited.”

    But these startups are the exception rather than the norm in an industry dominated by large multinational firms that mine a wide variety of commodities worldwide and tend to adhere to local labor and environmental standards, even when those standards are poor. And it remains to be seen whether the broader mining industry can clean up its act enough to attract the young talent needed to support the energy transition — especially in more traditional fields like economic geology and mining engineering.

    Finding top-tier geologists with years of experience in mineral exploration “is pretty difficult already,” Goldman said, citing a “talent drain” from the industry in the 2010s when new, high-quality discoveries dwindled and major mining companies reduced their exploration efforts. As KoBold begins to develop its first mine — an underground copper and cobalt mine in Zambia — it’s already struggling to find local experts with the skills to design and build it, Goldman said.

    “For us, it’s important not to just have global talent in mine design and mine building, but Zambian talent in leading that project,” Goldman said. But with the nation not having built a large new underground mine in decades, “that’s really hard.”

    As hiring challenges loom in the U.S. as well, lawmakers are stepping in to try to bolster the nation’s workforce: A provision in the 2022 CHIPS and Science Act calls on the National Science Foundation to make new funding opportunities available to train undergraduate and graduate students in mining engineering, while a bipartisan bill introduced in the Senate last year, the Mining Schools Act of 2023, would require the Department of Energy establish a grant program to support domestic mining education. (The bill hasn’t passed out of committee yet.) Faulds, of the Nevada Bureau of Mines and Geology, called the Mining Schools Act “a start” but warned that the $10 million in funds the bill authorizes every year for eight years isn’t a “huge amount” when spread across the entire country.

    In addition to technical experts, the mining industry will need blue collar workers to support additional critical minerals extraction. Today, there are approximately 375,000 people working in the minerals mining sector and another 97,000 working in coal mining in the U.S., according to Conor Bernstein, a spokesperson for the National Mining Association. Many of those workers are employed in jobs like construction, drilling, trucking, ore processing, and equipment maintenance. If the U.S. is going to ramp up production of critical minerals, this blue collar workforce will likely need to grow, although exactly how much will depend on technology trends and domestic mining policy.

    “However you game the estimates … the number of blue collar workers our industry will need in the coming years is poised to increase,” Bernstein told Grist. 

    At the same time, the mining sector will face widespread retirements by the late 2020s, according to a 2014 report by the Society for Mining, Metallurgy, and Exploration. “The challenges identified in that report have now collided with surging mineral demand driven by the energy transition,” Bernstein added.

    Whether the industry will have the same difficulties finding young people to work blue collar mining jobs that it faces recruiting technical experts is unclear. But there are other trends at play that could help critical minerals companies find the workers they need: The U.S. coal industry has been cratering for years, creating an economic void that needs to be filled in coal communities nationwide. Many of the coal miners now facing layoffs or early retirements could be retrained to work in lithium or nickel mining or processing, said Erin Bates, the communications director for United Mine Workers of America, which represents more coal miners than any other North American union.

    “A lot of these coal miners have massive skill sets,” Bates said. “They learn so much in the coal mine, that any other job they move into in that realm … they will be able to learn.”

    This story was originally published by Grist with the headline The climate case for a career in mining on Jan 31, 2024.

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  • A sprawling new investigation has found that forced prison labor feeds into the supply chains of a wide and dizzying range of food and grocery companies, ranging from small local brands and restaurants to major conglomerates like Tyson, Coca-Cola and Kroger. The two-year Associated Press investigation, published Monday, found that widespread abuse of prison workers has become a multibillion dollar…

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  • Natalia, a 58-year old veteran farmworker from Florida, gets paid by the hour to work in a greenhouse, subjecting her and coworkers to a wretched humid heat that grows worse every summer. She gets two 10-minute breaks and one half-hour lunch each day, which recently have been moved from wherever she could find a corner to an air-conditioned lunchroom, a change she said has made a world of difference. No federal laws regulate heat exposure in the workplace, leaving employers free to do whatever they deem appropriate to protect workers; other farms Natalia has worked at lacked a bathroom and didn’t provide drinking water. 

    Failing to provide such things could soon become illegal. Later this year, a new rule from the Occupational Health and Safety Administration, or OSHA, could for the first time provide federal protection to heat exposure and require companies to invest in employees’ well-being during the hottest parts of the year.

    Over the past several months, the agency held dozens of public meetings and collected more than 1,000 comments, many from workers but a number from businesses and business associations worried about the impact any rule might have on their bottom line. But new research says employers might want to think twice about opposing a heat standard, because unprotected workers will deliver diminishing returns in an ever-hotter world. Meanwhile, labor advocates are trying, mostly unsuccessfully, to push state and local versions of a rule.

    Natalia’s testimony was recorded by Jeannie Economos, who coordinates health and safety programs for an organization called Farmworker Association of Florida. Economos has been using that interview and countless others from the Sunshine State’s field, greenhouse, and construction workers to advocate for local, state, and federal workplace heat standards. An ideal guideline, she said, would at the very least guarantee sufficient access to cold, clean water and “not having to walk a mile down the fields to get water to drink when you’re hot, not having to wait until a break or you’re on the verge of fainting.”

    OSHA is considering various components to the proposed standard, which it plans to publish later this year, an agency official told the Washington Post. (When asked about the timeline, OSHA referred Grist to a posting in the Federal Registry, which does not specify a timeline.) Mandatory workplace education programs would teach both workers and managers how to recognize and respond to heat illness and take its risks seriously. The rule also could mandate that employers consider heat stress a medical emergency, and prohibit retaliation against employees who complain or report violations. The measure almost certainly will require that employers provide regular breaks; clean, accessible water; and protective equipment like hats and cooling vests. Another possibility is a requirement that employees be allowed to acclimate to intense heat by working only 20 percent of a typical workday during the first day of a heat wave and incrementally increasing their hours each day. 

    Over the past 15 years, OSHA received three petitions to implement a federal heat standard. The rulemaking process finally began in 2021 but could stall again if President Biden loses this year’s election. “OSHA has to be balanced and there’s a lot of pressure on OSHA to do something, so we’ll just wait and see,” Economos said. “It could take three to eight years to get a [final] rule.”  

    She had hoped a state heat standard in Florida could prevent deaths in the meantime. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, 387 workers lost their lives to heat illness between 2013 and 2022, and because heat illness is often misattributed as heart failure or stroke, that’s almost certainly an undercount. State-level heat standards already exist in California, Washington, Minnesota, and Oregon, and one has been proposed in Colorado. California’s guideline only protects outdoor workers, but the state is planning to introduce rules for indoor workers this year. However, right-to-work states in the South have shown more opposition to such ideas. Texas preempted municipal attempts to regulate heat exposure last year. In Florida, attempts at a state heat standard were stymied by Republican lawmakers. Miami-Dade County officials were to consider a measure last fall but pushed it to March after amid complaints that it was unfair to local business.

    The federal rulemaking process is complicated and crowded, and OSHA is facing immense pressure from all sides. Any regulation must cover wildly varying conditions of a vast labor pool in multiple sectors, from electricians working in stuffy attics to construction workers framing houses to farmworkers harvesting vegetables in the full sun. Meanwhile, an equally staggering array of business interests have largely condemned, and in many cases actively lobbied against, attempts to do something, stating that employers already follow voluntary, and in some cases, state, heat stress guidance and further regulation would be burdensome. Segments of the construction and agricultural industries along with chambers of commerce have opposed the standard. “We firmly believe employers should be responsible or address heat hazards at individual facilities,” representatives of the National Grain Association and the Agricultural Retailers association wrote in a joint public comment directed to OSHA.  

    Their opposition may be short-sighted, however. In order to weather climate change in the long term without severe economic damage, research shows, governments and employers will have to find ways to protect people from the heat. For agricultural workers, that’s particularly vital. A study released last week in the journal Global Change Biology found that heat exposure doesn’t only impact crop yields – it impairs the productivity of the people who plant and and harvest the crops, and limits their ability to work in the field. Already hot and humid Florida will heat up even more by the end of the century, reducing fieldworkers to around 70 percent of their current work capacity if working conditions do not improve.

    Gerald Nelson, a professor at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign and the study’s lead author, said that feeding the world in a new and extreme era of climate crisis makes caring for the people who put our food on the table. 

    “At some point it’s gonna be too hot,” Nelson said, “and you’re going to have to do some kind of remediation.”

    That could mean simple rest breaks and water breaks. It could also mean opportunities to work at night, or to find and invest in crop varieties that thrive in slightly cooler seasons. “The challenge is to figure out a system that’s both good today and good tomorrow,” Nelson said.

    But in the short term, Economos said a federal heat protection rule is urgent. “While we’re waiting for the federal government,” she said, “people are dying.”

    This story was originally published by Grist with the headline As summers grow ever hotter, OSHA appears ready to protect workers on Jan 29, 2024.


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  • On January 16, the Alabama Policy Institute (API), a right-wing think tank, published a sort of reactionary wish list: a 2024 “BluePrint [sic] for Alabama” containing 30 policy priorities for the state’s right wing. Among familiar conservative touchstones (ensuring tax “relief” for corporations and the rich; attacking diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives along with COVID restrictions and…

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    ​The 2023 German film Paradise went virtually unnoticed by commentators on the socialist left. Yet, it is amongst the best dystopian anti-capitalist films produced in the decade.

    The film follows the life of Max, an employee of Aeon, a company that buys life years from the poor to give them to the rich. Yes, you read that correctly, the life of the working poor (especially the large migrant populations – a phenomenon, as Immanuel Ness shows, integral to modern imperialism) is literally sold to the rich. Max is one of these salesmen. He is exceptional at his job, which is introduced to us as he tries to convince an 18-year-old migrant kid that he should sell him 15 years of his life for 700 thousand bucks. His family has been living in dire poverty since they arrived in the country, so this loss of life is presented as a gain. Now, Max tells them they will have enough money to live better in the years to come. Following this scene, Max is awarded employee of the month (Aeonian of the Year), showing us how capable he is at sucking the life of the poor to keep the rich alive. This award celebrates the 276 years he was able to collect.[1]

    Aeon (the company’s name) comes from the Greek ὁ αἰών, which originally meant a lifespan of 100 years. With time, it came to be understood also as vital force (a sort of Élan vital a la Bergson), life, or being. This is, after all, what the company is taking from the working poor to give to the elite. As Max’s working class father-in-law notes, the rich are living longer as the poor (who are unable to pay for the service even with a lifetime of saving) die younger. Because of the enormity of the company, they have their own private militia (which they will use towards the end of the film) and a tremendous power over the state’s judicature. Everything they are doing is perfectly legal, as the father-in-law tells Max. (Interestingly, socialist China is the leading international force behind the attempt to ban these life-year transfers.)

    The company pitches the selling of life as an opportunity, as a ‘winning of the lottery’. Their advertisement is filled with phrases like ‘choose your dreams,’ ‘when you give time, life recompenses you,’ ‘your time, your opportunity, your choice.’ The company’s president, Sophie, tells us of how great it would have been if some of the great poets, composers, scientists, etc. could have lived decades longer. Now with Aeon’s services they can!

    How can we not think here of Stephan Jay Gould’s famous quote: “I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein’s brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.” In the Paradise universe, how many geniuses are never able to actualize their potential because of the material conditions of their existence? How many of these, perhaps wealthier in their potential to serve humanity than the wealthy scientists and artists, are forced to give their life years to the rich to get by?

    This dystopic society terrifies us because we know that if our society ever achieved such technological development, it would be used and legitimized in exactly the same ways. It doesn’t take much imagination for us to see the homologies already present, even though we lack the technology the movie is centered around.

    It is already scientifically established that the wealthier live longer than the poor. Studies which have followed the lives of twins have shown how the richer sibling consistently lives significantly longer. The rich have the capacity to access healthier foods, better medical services, and to free themselves from the life-sucking stresses and traumas of not knowing how one will pay the bills at the end of the month (for the latter point, see the work of Gabriel and Daniel Mate in The Myth of Normal). An MIT study showed that “in the U.S., the richest 1 percent of men lives 14.6 years longer on average than the poorest 1 percent of men, while among women in those wealth percentiles, the difference is 10.1 years on average.” These statistics are only intensified when we take into account the inequalities of life expectancies between the rich of imperialist countries and the poor of imperialized countries.

    The wealth that the capitalist vampires suck from the working poor is life itself. “Capital is dead labour,” as Marx tells us, “that, vampire-like, only lives by sucking living labour, and lives the more, the more labour it sucks… The time during which the labourer works, is the time during which the capitalist consumes the labour-power he has purchased of him.” Capitalist exploitation is already, like life-year selling in Aeon, the sucking of the Aeon (vital force) of the working class to accumulate capital for the elite. The inequality of life expectancy is merely a reflection of the relations of production and the exploitation at the root of capital accumulation. Each pole is dialectically interconnected; the rich get richer and live longer because the poor are poor and live less, destroying their bodies to accumulate capital for the wealthy.

    Research has shown that we have developed the productive forces to the point of only needing to work around 3 hours a day (15 hours a week). The 3-hour workday prediction of John Meynard Keynes, only an aspirational ideal decades earlier for Marx’s son-in-law Paul Lafargue, has today become materially possible. The impediment to its realization is rooted in social, not material incapacity. It is the capitalist mode of social life, with profit as its sole goal and purpose, which prevents this freeing up of humanity’s time and potential. Its relations of production are a fetter on human life and culture, not just on the forces of production. Under a different mode of life, with a modus operandi for society other than capital accumulation, we could radically reduce the socially necessary labor time and increase what Martin Hägglund has called socially available free time. As I’ve argued before, the absence of its actualization is “not rooted in the machines and technologies themselves, but in the historically constituted social relations which mediate our relationship with these developments.” But until then (that is, until socialism can freely develop without pressures from the global imperialist system), we will continue to slavishly give more than a decade worth of work hours (90000 on average) working in alienating jobs that make our bosses richer while we stay poor and triply exploited. Is this not, like in Paradise, the giving up of decades of our life to making the rich not only richer, but capable of living significantly longer than us?

    The way Aeon defends its practices are also reminiscent of apologists for wage slavery. It is, after all, presented as a ‘choice,’ something we ‘consent’ to. But as with wage slavery, what is the alternative? Can I expect anything other than death if, born into a working family, I decide not to commit my life to being exploited through wage slavery? How would I obtain the necessaries of life if I object to spending labor power in enriching someone else? Under capitalism this is impossible. The choice is between a slavish life of being exploited and death. As socialist thinkers (utopian and Marxists) have criticized from the start, this is really no choice at all. Perhaps there is a slight bit of choice in deciding who exploits us (for instance, Walmart or Amazon), but what does this amount to other than the capacity to pick our slave masters? Is this really what we want to herald as pillars of ‘choice’ and ‘consent’? Likewise, for those who sell their life-years to Aeon, the ‘choice’ is one between unlivable poverty and a fractioned lifespan with a better living standard. This is hardly a ‘choice’ at all.

    Aeon also describes selling your life-years as akin to winning the lottery. Is this not, like we see today, a linguistic whitewashing which puts a pretty terminological veil upon a horrific practice? For instance, how we call civilian deaths ‘collateral damage,’ or US state department propped up terrorists ‘moderate rebels’. In relation to work, a similar romanticizing language is operative. Today the growing precarity of a gigifying workforce is pitched as ‘flexibility’. As I have argued before:

    The last four decades of neoliberal capitalism has been a continuous disempowerment of workers through the cutting of benefits, stagnating of wages, and repression of unionization efforts. The gig economy takes this even further, through an employer’s complete removal of responsibility for workers. By categorizing workers as ‘independent contractors’, the ‘flexibility’ they continuously speak of is one that is only for them. Flexibility for the capitalist entails the removal of responsibilities for his workers, and subsequently, increasing profits for him. But for the worker – regardless of how much the capitalist’s propaganda says they are now ‘flexible’ and ‘free’ – flexibility means insecurity, less pay, and less benefits. Like in sex, flexibility for the worker here only means he can get screwed more efficiently.

    Aeon’s immense resources also allow it to advance its practices, regardless of how unethical they might be, into the sphere of legality. Everything it is doing is perfectly legal. It is accepted under bourgeois ‘justice’, where justice is indistinguishable from the interests of the economically dominant class. Today readily available cancer drugs like Imbruvica are priced at 16 thousand dollars a month, something only the ultra-rich can afford. In the US, 45,000 people die a year because they do not have insurance. Any sane society (as opposed to a deeply irrational one centered on upholding the interests of capital accumulation) would consider the activities of the medico-pharmaceutical industrial complex criminal. However, because the American state is the state of their class (i.e., the big monopoly capitalists), their profit-rooted class interests are consistently upheld to the detriment of the majority of Americans.

    Aeon’s capture over their society’s judicature is simply a particular form of how the state and its institutions have always functioned. The state in general doesn’t exist. What exists is particular types of states, corresponding to various modes of life holding one or another class in an economically dominant position – a dominance the state is tasked with reproducing. “The modern state,” as Marx and Engels write in 1848, “is but a committee for managing the common affairs of the whole bourgeoisie.” When profitable technology like Aeon’s develops, the state’s judicature adapts it to the existing framework of bourgeois legality. As Marx and Engels write in 1846,

    Whenever, through the development of industry and commerce, new forms of intercourse have been evolved (e.g. assurance companies, etc.), the law has always been compelled to admit them among the modes of acquiring property.

    Paradise, all in all, puts a mirror up to our capitalist societies. It shows us, through the medium of a new technological development, the barbarity of the logic operative in our mode of life. A barbarity, of course, which is historical, not eternal. It is something we can overcome when the class struggles for the conquest of political power by working people succeed.

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    [1] This review will focus on the more general social critiques operative in the movie. There are no ‘spoilers’ here, so feel free to read even if you intend to watch the movie afterwards.

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    Amid a nearly 16-month strike by Pittsburgh Post-Gazette employees, the union representing workers at Pennsylvania’s top newspaper by circulation on Monday filed an official grievance condemning the use of artificial intelligence to create an illustration published in the previous day’s edition.

    “The Post-Gazette‘s attempt to replace our labor with artificial intelligence is a serious concern to journalists not just in Pittsburgh, but all across the country,” Newspaper Guild of Pittsburgh president Zack Tanner said in a statement Tuesday. “As newsroom jobs continue to disappear due to corporate greed and mismanagement, we stand firmly against any use of AI that takes work out of union members’ hands.”

    Post-Gazette production, distribution, and advertising workers have been on strike since October 2022, primarily over the loss of their healthcare plan. According to union officials, Block Communications, the paper’s owner, refused to pay an additional $19 per week for each employee to keep workers’ existing coverage.

    The paper’s workers have been without a contract since March 2017, when the previous collective bargaining agreement expired without a replacement.

    Newspaper Guild workers are demanding:

    • An end to the impasse in contract negotiations;
    • Undoing the unilaterally imposed working conditions and reinstatement of terms of the expired 2014-17 newsroom contract;
    • A return to the bargaining table to reach a fair deal with the journalists represented by the Newspaper Guild; and
    • Meeting the healthcare demands of striking sister unions.

    Block Communications has hired more than two dozen strike-breaking workers to ensure continued Post-Gazette publication during the prolonged union action. However, this is apparently the first time management has passed over human workers in favor of AI.

    “AI will not scab us,” the Newspaper Guild defiantly declared, using the colloquial labor term usually reserved for human beings who cross picket lines.

    Common Dreams reported last year how the AI and fake content industries pose an increasing threat to journalists’ livelihoods around the world.

    “As the [Post-Gazette] resists working with us to put an end to this strike, they continue to sink to new lows in an effort to crank out whatever product they can cobble together,” Jen Kundrach, a striking illustrator at the paper, said Tuesday. “That they’ve resorted to the use of inferior, AI-generated images rather than custom art by a staff illustrator shows how little they must value the talent of their guild staff. They’d rather squander that talent and put out a subpar newspaper than come to the table and reach a fair agreement with us.”

    Post-Gazette workers are buoyed by a January 2023 National Labor Relations Board ruling that found management did not negotiate in good faith, imposed illegal working conditions, and unlawfully surveilled unionizing workers. Block Communications legal representatives appealed the decision. Strikers and their supporters are slated to attend a Saturday strategy session at the Pittsburgh Federation of Teachers Union Hall at 10 19th Street in the South Side Flats.

    Tanner asserted that if management thinks “that this fight is over, they are dead wrong.”

    “Workers on strike won’t stop fighting, because Pittsburgh deserves a newspaper created by union labor, not artificial intelligence or scab workers,” he added.

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  • The struggle of organized labor in Upstate New York and more specifically Central New York is one that has typically gone unnoticed on both a national and historical scale. This of course can be said about numerous regions throughout the United States among other sections of the global socialist movement for the enfranchisement of the working class and the fight against backwards reactionary culture. Lessons can be drawn from organized struggle regardless of where in the world they take place. This lack of attention paid to the struggles in this region of New York State is depriving socialists, communists, and the general working class of the stories and lessons of the multifaceted battle in defense of those who feel the harshness of capitalism in small town areas. The 3-week struggle carried out in 2019 by Special Metals workers in New Hartford, New York, is one of those that deserves more attention as something that can be learned from with lessons carrying over to other struggles including the fights against homophobia and transphobia, racism, and colonialist apartheid against Palestine.

    The Impetus

    Workers from Special Metals, a company known for producing nickel and cobalt alloys for various purposes and owned by Berkshire-Hathaway, officially voted to establish a strike on August 17, 2019, making this the first strike to hit this company since 1992. 211 production workers as well as 25 company technicians, giving a total of 236 workers, walked away from their posts in response to a falling out with the company after they had been unable to negotiate a new contract the day before. The main catalyst for the workers deciding to embark on this struggle being the history of the company’s enforcement of an insane working schedule. The Special Metals facility operates on a 24-hour, 7-day cycle, and at the time of this strike, the company had been calling for their employees to work 60 hours a week, 6 days a week, also requiring that they work numerous holidays. It was reported that the company utilized very little in terms of hiring temporary employees or hiring new full-time employees to help soften the burden of constant mandatory overtime.

    Ron Zegarelli, at the time chief steward for the workers’ union, the International Association of Machinists Local 2310, put it bluntly. “They know what we want, we want time off.” Having actual time off is the core element to this situation that drove the workers to engage in the struggle of the picket. The grueling schedule and the lack of adherence to the previous union contract posed numerous problems for the workers in their daily lives, leaving many alienated not only from their work but from their families as well. Special Metals’ desired 60-hour structure would only exacerbate such problems, with workers being overworked to the point, again according to Zegarelli, that workers in the past wound up getting divorces due to how much they were forced to be at work instead of home. Lives and marriages have been ruined in the past by this company, and they were going to double down on the schedule structure that would only bring about further detriment to the health and well-being of their employees. One worker spoke on the issues that such a harsh and unstable schedule poses, noting however that due to his lack of seniority in the company, speaking on such an issue without the power that the union had begun to exert could mean the loss of his job.

    The issue of holidays is an example of Special Metals blatantly breaching the prior contract they held with the union before the strike blossomed from the material conditions. As laid out by Jason Berdanier, vice president of the union at the time, workers were sick of “scheduling the holidays around Special Metals instead of having Special Metals schedule around us.” Berdanier also revealed that despite the fact that their contract explicitly stated that there were 13 holidays listed as days off, however only a fraction of these would actually be guaranteed paid holidays. Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, Thanksgiving, and Good Friday were the only holidays that workers were guaranteed to have off. No Easter, no Martin Luther King Day, no New Years, several other federal holidays that were supposed to be in their contract were denied. All in all, the people who actually kept Special Metals running even to their own detriment simply wanted an end to, or even just a reduction of mandatory overtime and to have the full extent of their holidays be guaranteed.

    The production workers were not in this struggle alone though. In a display of solidarity with their fellow proletarians, 25 technicians from Special Metals joined the picket line and worked to counter the divisive efforts of the company. Though the union’s national body was acting in ways that would concede to the demands of management, something that would ultimately go against the very foundation of labor unions and in blunt terms, screw over the workers, the technicians would not bow to these demands. A separate agreement was presented to the technicians holding greater pay options than production workers were offered, and the technicians rejected this offer, seeing it as an attempt to pit workers against each other and distract from the problems that the capitalists create for the proletariat. When asked about the IAM’s reactionary decision to take the divisive agreement, a worker only referred to as William said; “I don’t know, but it was some kind of bullshit deal that was allowed that worked to keep workers against each other.”

    An additional statement from William draws several parallels to the situation that workers at the Redco Foods plant in Little Falls, New York dealt with in 2007. In both conditions, we see workers calling for solidarity with one another as they fight the common enemy of the working-class that is the bourgeoisie, as well as worrying about the future prospects for their children and other young people as they enter the workforce and wanting to ensure that their working conditions are at the best that they can be in contradiction to the reactionary choices of the bourgeois apparatus. William continues, explaining why exactly the separate agreement was rejected;

    “We voted it down because we wanted to stand in solidarity with our fellow brothers and sisters and not stab them in the back, and we’re also considering the next generation and know that we have to draw a line and fight it out now.”

    In addition, though the strike did not go on long enough to allow for the creation of such, the idea of creating committees of rank-and-file workers designed to work in collaboration with international workers, particularly those who worked at the one Special Metals plant in England, would float around until a settlement had been reached.

    Local Responses

    Once again in parallel to the Redco struggle from 12 years prior, the fight waged by over 200 Special Metals workers was met with an overwhelming support from the local community in numerous forms. As the strikers carried signs with phrases such as “No Mandated OT” and set up a small makeshift rest area with shade and a grill to keep them fed, locals would show up throughout the day in support of their efforts and bring them food and water to fuel their fight, with one person even bringing an entire truck bed’s worth of water to keep the picketers hydrated in the August heat. Material support for the working-class battle against unfair contracts and endeavors to diminish the strength and solidarity of the workers is something that should always be appreciated as well as considered for other struggles against capitalism, imperialism, and other reactionary profit-driven isms.

    Students from Hamilton College in nearby Clinton forged an outlet for support for the strikers, exemplifying the carryover of struggle in that people from different fields and different conditions must be able to act in solidarity together if there is to be any real chance at fighting the injustices thrust upon the proletariat and all oppressed people by the bourgeois political, economic, and social structures. Students Libby Militello and Brook Kessler, both of the Hamilton College Democrats, saw the Special Metals workers’ cause being of great significance, with Militello relating the struggle to her own family’s union ties. The Hamilton College Democrats, according to Militello and Kessler, supports fair working conditions, and thus felt it was part of their duty to provide moral support and engage with the picket line. Kessler specifically addressed the emotional and physical issues that can derive from excessive overtime, an indirect admission that the very structure of capitalism is designed to keep workers beaten down and ill, and in addition she referenced the various decisions made by the Supreme Court before and during the strike that sought to further weaken the power of unions in line with the anti-worker endeavors of the past.

    Drawing parallels this time to the struggle waged by Remington Arms workers in late 2020 in nearby Ilion, the strikers at Special Metals even received lip-service support from both members of the New York State Assembly and the United States House of Representatives. State Assemblywoman Marriane Buttenschon sent a letter to both the company CEO located in Portland, Oregon, as well as the manager of the New Hartford plant where the strike was taking place. Playing both sides as is often the case with Democrats in their adherence to the bourgeois political structure, Buttenschon would both thank the company for doing business in New York and for the role that it has played in the state’s economy, and emphasize the necessity of upholding the collective bargaining process and calling for the demands of the workers to be properly listened to and addressed. Then-Congressman Anthony Brindisi, also a toothless Democrat, sent a letter to the New Hartford management as well as Ron Zegarelli. Brindisi essentially reiterated what was said by Buttenschon, highlighting the overtime concerns of the workers and encouraging the two parties to go back into negotiations.

    The general response to the strike encompasses the varied ways in which a local community can rally behind those fighting against the unjust actions carried out by capitalists trying to exert their power over the workers. However, there is one instance of outside dissatisfaction with the strikers that raises several eyebrows. In an act of extralegal violence, Zegarelli recalled that at one point a driver tried to drive their vehicle through the protest! That people actually willing to attempt to do bodily harm and even kill their fellow worker in defense of the capitalists who would cast them aside at the drop of a hat is a testament to the effect that anti-worker propaganda pushed to enforce the hegemonic power that capitalists hold can have on the working masses. For some reason no charges were pressed on the man, perhaps showing that this was just some freak accident and not a deliberate act of terror against workers trying to get their just dues, but the common thread of seeing people call for running over protesters on social media and the various legislative measures introduced to protect people who do such a thing over the last half decade makes it hard to believe that this was simply a matter of someone looking at their phone or something else of the sort.

    The Company Response

    All while the strikers, legislature, and student supporters stressed that Special Metals was enacting policy that was in blatant terms screwing over their workers on numerous levels, the company asserted that the offer they presented before the initial fallout was “fair and equitable” according to the company’s director of communications David Dugan. In an act of “fair and equitable” negotiation, the company decided to utilize tactics that are in essence active attacks on the strikers by indirectly threatening their jobs. Dugan explained:

    “As a result of the vote, we are executing our contingency plans, including having our salaried employees operate our equipment. Through these and other actions, such as leveraging other production facilities, we are well positioned to meet our customers’ needs as negotiations continue.”

    In essence, Dugan admitted that the company would be putting other less-experienced workers to task in operating dangerous equipment and utilizing scab labor. Zegarelli, even as a representative of the union, showed worry for the salaried employees being thrown into the lion’s den, citing that the work conducted by the production workers is very dangerous and that the salaried workers were being put in danger for the sake of maintaining productivity and profit for Special Metals. That the company would try to force their production workers into a 60-hour work week with barely time off, and would throw their less experienced salaried employees into an environment that they don’t have nearly as much knowledge of in order to keep up the arbitrary notion of productivity under capitalism, exhibits a complete lack of humanity or respect for the working class on the part of Special Metals.

    Special Metals incorporated certain elements of the Mohawk Valley Formula into their campaign against the strikers. In addition to utilizing scab labor and forcing workers from other departments onto the production line, the strikers were also being closely observed by a combination of local police forces as well as private security hired by the company. The police would ultimately be of no help when someone drove their vehicle into the picket line, and the strikers at no point threatened the use of violence, sabotage, or any other tactic that would physically disrupt the company’s proceedings. Using the factor of intimidation by having a police presence alongside a privately hired security seems like it’s overkill when the workers have picketed in an orderly fashion.

    In what is perhaps the strangest and most unexplained act of retaliation carried out by the company in this situation, Special Metals delayed contract negotiations because of a meeting with the Department of Labor, because the company filed an unfair labor practice report against those on strike. No context is given as to why this was done. No claims of inflammatory language, no claims of intimidating other workers into joining them on the picket line, nothing that points out any concrete reason for such a report to be filed other than as an act of intimidation against the strikers by Special Metals themselves.

    A Settlement Is Reached

    In early September, 3 weeks after the strike had been initiated, the strikers and representatives from Special Metals were formally negotiating once more. After further deliberation with the help of a federal mediator, an agreement was reached and the strike was officially over. Though their demands were not fully met, the outcome of the strike is still ultimately considered a success. According to a statement from the IAM, the negotiations had resulted in a 4-year contract that created “a new process that will minimize how often members are scheduled for 12 hours,” as well as establishing wage increases and increases to certain aspects of the employees’ health care coverage. No word is given on the status of the guaranteed holidays, though it is presumed that this is addressed in the process of negating 12-hour shifts.

    Lessons Of the Strike

    The lessons of the 2019 Special Metals strike are similar to that of the 2007 Redco Foods strike. Ultimately, both exhibit the significance of solidarity and community building, especially when confronting issues as pressing as the mistreatment of workers under the profit-motive. Regardless of whether the cause is a workers strike, a pro-Palestine movement, a movement against transphobia or police brutality, or even a general rally in support of the socialist system and the communist goal, providing material and vocal support for such causes should be the goal for all socialists in our collective, global fight against the capitalist apparatus and for the improvement of society for all oppressed peoples. Only through collective action and solidarity do we stand any chance at defeating those who endanger the planet, endanger marginalized groups, and endanger workers of all kinds.

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    This story originally appeared in Common Dreams on Jan. 22, 2024. It is shared here with permission under a Creative Commons (CC BY-NC-ND 3.0) license.

    With over 25,000 Palestinians killed so far in the U.S.-backed Israeli assault of the Gaza Strip, the Service Employees International Union on Monday became the largest union in North America to join a growing coalition of labor groups calling for a cease-fire.

    “SEIU’s almost 2 million members believe that wherever violence, fear, and hatred thrive, working people cannot,” said Mary Kay Henry, the union’s president, in a statement. “We condemn antisemitism, Islamophobia, racism, and hate in all its forms around the world. Our union includes many members and their families—Palestinian and Israeli, Jewish, Muslim, and Christian—who have been impacted by the recent violence.”

    “As a union family strongly committed to justice and democracy, we believe all people across the globe deserve to live safely and free of fear, with dignity and respect for their human rights, as well as access to food, water, shelter, medicine, and other necessities,” she continued. “SEIU members understand that working people often feel the impact of war most deeply and bear the brunt of its terrible consequences.”

    “We call for an immediate cease-fire, the release of all hostages, and the delivery of lifesaving food, water, medicine, and other resources to the people of Gaza.”

    The SEIU leader condemned the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, as well as the Israeli military’s response, which has included “widespread attacks on innocent civilians, including the bombardment of neighborhoods, healthcare facilities, and refugee camps.”

    In addition to killing and wounding tens of thousands of Palestinians, the war has displaced the vast majority of Gaza’s 2.3 million residents, who are facing starvation and disease. Henry said that “we call for an immediate cease-fire, the release of all hostages, and the delivery of lifesaving food, water, medicine, and other resources to the people of Gaza.”

    “Our call for a cease-fire is a call for peace, rooted in the pain that SEIU members are feeling, from the Jewish member concerned for her son’s safety in Tel Aviv, to the Muslim member who immigrated to this country from the Middle East to escape war and violence, to the hundreds of thousands of SEIU healthcare workers who see themselves in the healthcare workers in Gaza who have been killed trying to save lives,” said Henry, a U.S. labor leader whose union also represents Canadians.

    “We call on elected leaders to come together to bring an end to the violence and demand a peaceful resolution that ensures both lasting security for the Israeli people and a sustained end to decades of occupation, blockades, and lack of freedom endured by the Palestinian people,” Henry added. “This war must end, as it is expanding into a regional conflict. It is time for long-term solutions that will bring safety, peace, democracy, and justice to all in the region.”

    The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), the largest Muslim civil rights and advocacy group in the United States, welcomed the cease-fire demand from SEIU, which followed similar calls from the United Auto WorkersAmerican Postal Workers UnionUnited Electrical, Radio, and Machine Workers of America; and various other unions.

    “We thank SEIU officials for taking a principled stand and demanding an end to the Israeli government’s genocidal campaign in Gaza,” said CAIR national executive director Nihad Awad. “Every day, more people in our nation and around the world are waking up to the reality of the Israeli government’s crimes against humanity. It is time that our government does the same.”

    U.S. Rep. Cori Bush (D-Mo.)—who spearheaded a cease-fire resolution with Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.), the only Palestinian American in Congress—declared that “every day, our pro-peace, pro-humanity movement grows larger and stronger. Thank you SEIU for standing up for humanity.”

    Mondoweiss noted Monday that “across the country rank-and-file union members are also pushing for their leadership to take action on the issue. Members of the National Education Association (NEA) want the organization to rescind its endorsement of President Joe Biden until the administration supports a cease-fire and stops sending weapons to Israel.”

    Advocates, scholars, and world leaders have increasingly accused Israel of genocide in Gaza, leading to an emergency hearing before the International Court of Justice earlier this month. The U.S. government has also faced mounting criticism. The United States gives Israel at least $ 3.8 billion in annual military aid, and Biden responded to the October 7 attack by asking Congress for a new $14.3 billion package while also bypassing congressional oversight to arm Israeli forces.

    Although Biden last month called out Israel’s “indiscriminate bombing” and said that “I want them to be focused on how to save civilian lives,” progressive critics still argue that he is enabling Israeli forces’ ongoing violence against civilians in Gaza. The president is also under fire for stoking fears of a wider war with U.S. airstrikes on Yemen that lack approval from Congress.

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  • Service Employees International Union (SEIU) called for an “immediate” ceasefire in Gaza on Monday, adding to a growing chorus of voices who are calling for a ceasefire as Israel’s genocidal assault has killed over 25,000 Palestinians so far, with thousands missing under the rubble. In a statement, SEIU President Mary Kay Henry cited Israel’s systematic dismantling of the infrastructure for basic…

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    What’s scarier than a shark attack? An increase in the minimum wage.

    At least that’s what many corporate media outlets seem to want you to believe, given the apocalyptic tone of much of the coverage of California’s recent decision to raise the minimum wage for fast-food workers to $20 an hour, starting this April, a bump from the current level of $16.

    CBS: As new minimum wages are ushered in, companies fight back with fees and layoffs

    CBS‘s headline (12/27/23) frames California’s minimum wage raise as an act of aggression, against which fast-food companies have to “fight back.”

    While outlets like the New York Times (10/23/23), the Associated Press (9/28/23), CalMatters (12/21/23, 9/28/23) and the Sacramento Bee (9/29/23, 9/15/23, 9/11/23) have responsibly covered the policy change, highlighting the large positive effects that it will likely have on workers, others are obsessively accentuating the negatives.

    Consider the following sampling of articles, by no means exhaustive, all of which link the minimum wage increase to higher prices or harm to workers:

    • “Pizza Hut Franchisees Lay Off More Than 1,200 Delivery Drivers in California as Restaurants Brace for $20 Fast-Food Wages” (Business Insider, 12/22/23)
    • “I’m a California Restaurant Operator Preparing for the $20-an-Hour Fast-Food Wage by Trimming Hours, Eliminating Employee Vacation and Raising Menu Prices” (Business Insider, 1/16/24)
    • “As New Minimum Wages Are Ushered In, Companies Fight Back With Fees and Layoffs” (CBS, 12/27/23)
    • “California Pizza Huts Lay Off All Delivery Drivers Ahead of Minimum Wage Increase” (USA Today, 12/26/23)
    • “Fatburger Owner to Raise Prices, Trim Hours as California Hikes Minimum Wage” (New York Post, 1/16/24)
    • “California Pizza Hut Franchises Announce Layoffs of Delivery Drivers Before New $20 Minimum Wage: Report” (New York Post, 12/27/23)

    Anecdotes instead of evidence

    Business Insider: I'm a California restaurant operator preparing for the $20-an-hour fast-food wage by trimming hours, eliminating employee vacation, and raising menu prices

    “The money has to come from somewhere,” a fast-food franchise owner tells Business Insider (1/16/24)—which doesn’t mention that such franchises typically have a profit margin of 6–9%, higher than full-service restaurants (Restaurant365, 2/25/20).

    Extensive academic research on the topic of wage floors has repeatedly found that minimum wage hikes tend to have little to no effect on employment. The catch, of course, is that most of the hikes analyzed have been relatively modest, given the US’s stinginess towards workers. But a recent study looking at the effects of large jumps in the minimum wage on the fast-food industry in California and New York found the result was actually higher employment, not mass layoffs. Is any of that research cited in these pieces? No.

    Instead, the articles elevate anecdotes about what individual companies have done and say they plan to do in response to the minimum wage boost. The second Business Insider piece (1/16/24), for instance, quotes the owner of four Fatburger franchises as saying, “I feel that there will be a lot of pain to workers as franchise owners are forced to take drastic measures.” Scary!

    It’s worth emphasizing that these anecdotes about layoffs are entirely compatible with a story of the minimum wage hike having a negligible or even positive effect on employment. That’s because, when assessing the effect on overall employment, what matters is not whether there are individual companies that are laying off workers, but whether the net effect across all companies in the industry is positive or negative.

    Consider that, as of late, a typical month has seen layoffs in the range of 160,000 in California. If you want to spin a story about how horrible the economy is, just run endless headlines on these layoffs—and ignore the fact that the state’s monthly hires have been averaging nearly 600,000.

    Similarly, if you want to spin a story about how evil a rise in the minimum wage is, run endless headlines linking the minimum wage to layoffs, because layoffs will happen even if employment stays the same or increases overall. As Myth and Measurement: The New Economics of the Minimum Wage, a classic text in the minimum wage literature, put it:

    A hike in the minimum wage could lead to an increase in employment in some firms, and to a decrease at others. As a result, it is always possible to find examples of employers who claim that they will go out of business if the minimum wage increases, or who state that they closed because of a minimum-wage increase.

    Despite this reality, the authors found that “on average…employment remains unchanged, or sometimes rises slightly, as a result of increases in the minimum wage.”

    ‘Fears of skyrocketing prices’

    Yahoo: McDonald's $18 Big Mac Meal Goes Viral Again As Fast Food Minimum Wage Hike To $20 Triggers Fears Of Skyrocketing Prices And Layoffs, Leaving People Questioning: 'Maybe This Went Up Way Too Fast'

    Yahoo (1/4/24) claims the report of a Connecticut McDonald’s “charging $18 for a Big Mac combo meal…is not isolated”—failing to mention that the average price of a Big Mac combo meal in Connecticut is $10.79.

    A worrying number of media outlets are allergic to this level of nuance. And perhaps none so much as Yahoo Finance. Tying fearmongering over minimum wage hikes to inflation hysteria, Yahoo (1/4/24) ran this mess of a headline at the start of the month:

    McDonald’s $18 Big Mac Meal Goes Viral Again as Fast-Food Minimum Wage Hike to $20 Triggers Fears of Skyrocketing Prices and Layoffs, Leaving People Questioning: ‘Maybe This Went Up Way Too Fast.’

    The grain of truth here is that prices have risen substantially at fast-food restaurants lately, and especially at McDonald’s. Moreover, part of this increase can be attributed to strong wage growth. As Vox (1/9/24) has reported:

    According to [the economist Michael] Reich, for every percentage point increase in a fast-food firm’s labor costs, one might expect to see a bit less than a 0.333 percentage point increase in menu prices. This is a rough estimate, but it’s a decent rule of thumb. And it would imply that rising wages have nudged fast-food prices up by more than 9% since the pandemic’s onset.

    These numbers imply that a minimum wage hike would result in higher prices, which is in line with what academic research has found. The thing is, at least to this point, these price increases have been quite modest. The same recent analysis of large minimum wage hikes in California and New York that found a positive employment effect also found that a “roughly 50% increase in the minimum wage resulted in an approximately 3% increase in prices.” The new minimum wage increase in California would be closer to a 30% jump (relative to where the wage was when the legislation was passed in the fall). There’s no firm basis to suggest that such a rise would send prices “skyrocketing.”

    ‘Blaming whoever wrote that law’

    California Globe: The Number Of Victims is Growing of New $20 Fast Food Minimum Wage Law

    Did a laid-off pizza deliverer really know the name of the Pasadena assembly member who wrote the minimum wage law? Regardless, the right-wing California Globe (1/2/24) was able to get its defense of business owners in the voice of a low-wage worker distributed widely through Yahoo (1/4/24).

    But Yahoo doesn’t need a firm basis for its narrative; all it needs is some good old right-wing propaganda. So it turns to reporting from the California Globe. As the Sacramento Bee  (10/29/20) detailed in a 2020 expose of California news sites backed by conservative political operatives:

    The California Globe, founded by an associate of Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner, describes itself as “pro-growth and pro-business, nonpartisan and objective”—but serves up a steady diet of conservative news and opinion. The Globe boasted that its stories racked up 1.1 million page views in July, which it described as a landmark achievement for the two-year-old site.

    Unsurprisingly, under the headline “The Number of Victims Is Growing of New $20 Fast-Food Minimum Wage Law,” the Globe (1/2/24) was able to cobble together some horror stories about the effects of the new minimum wage legislation. The piece centers around the testimony of two workers who were victims of the recent layoffs at Pizza Hut. The core takeaway is basically the following quote, attributed to an anonymous Pizza Hut worker:

    I, as well as pretty much everyone else here, is blaming whoever wrote that law or bill or whatever. There are a few who are saying that Pizza Hut is doing this out of greed or that they could have cut costs elsewhere, but most are like, maybe this went up way too fast. Some workers benefit, others are now out of a job. So the guy who wrote it, [Assemblyman] Chris Holden [D-Pasadena], as well as anyone else who thought this was a good idea. Great job. We hate you forever now.

    Again, as unfortunate as what happened to these two workers is, the fact that they were laid off tells us very little about what the overall impact of the new minimum wage law will be. But that won’t stop media outlets from cynically elevating such stories to demonize a policy that is set to raise the wages of hundreds of thousands of workers. Yahoo borrows parts of this quote, as well as others from the article, to fill out its piece, giving the Globe a further boost beyond its already substantial circulation.

    Defying ‘economics and common sense’

    WSJ: California’s Fast-Food Casualties

    The Wall Street Journal (12/28/23) states that when the government raises wages above what the market determines, “jobs simply disappear”—an ideological assertion contradicted by decades of research (CEPR, 2/13).

    National conservative media have likewise been promoting the propaganda line that the minimum wage increase will inevitably lead to job loss (with the benefit of increased wages to hundreds of thousands of workers conveniently ignored). At the end of last year, the Wall Street Journal published an editorial (12/28/23) headlined “California’s Fast-Food Casualties,” which opened:

    California’s $20 an hour minimum wage for fast-food workers doesn’t take effect until April, but the casualties are already piling up. Pizza Hut franchises this week told more than 1,200 delivery drivers that they’ll lose their jobs before the higher wage kicks in. Gov. Gavin Newsom no doubt sends condolences, though what he should send is an apology.

    It continued by arguing that “it defies economics and common sense to think that businesses won’t adapt by laying off workers” in response to the new law. But does it? Or is skepticism of the idea that the law will lead to net job loss warranted, given the existing evidence base? The history of debates over the minimum wage is filled with claims about the detrimental effect of raising the wage floor that have repeatedly flopped in the face of empirical evidence.

    But maybe this time will be different. The California law breaks with the standard approach towards wage floors in the US, where a floor is set across all industries in a particular region. Instead, the law sets a floor for a particular sector, and it establishes a wage council that will oversee wage increases from 2025 to 2029, something novel in American labor law. The layoffs that we’re seeing could have something to do with this unique setup.

    Because the law sets a minimum standard solely for the fast-food industry, it leaves a loophole for fast-food companies to exploit. Rather than keeping delivery services in-house, they can dump those workers off on companies like DoorDash and Uber Eats, which are not subject to the same labor regulations. Because these companies can pay the workers less, the most sensible decision may now be for fast-food companies to scrap their delivery teams and outsource to outside delivery services.

    This is a totally plausible story about what’s going on, though not the only plausible story. But even if it does fit with reality, it just looks like these delivery jobs are being transferred out of the fast-food sector, with the economy-wide net effect on employment unclear. So to cite these layoffs as evidence that the minimum wage hike will have a negative overall effect on employment is at best premature.

    All of this focus on the possibilities of layoffs, moreover, totally distracts from the far-reaching benefits that the policy change is likely to have. California has over half a million fast-food workers, who, as of 2022, earned a median wage of a bit over $16. Raising the minimum wage to $20 would directly affect the vast majority of those in the fast-food industry—even the 90th percentile worker made less than $20 in 2022. If there is in fact some rise in unemployment, which is not entirely out of the question, it would have to be pretty substantial in order to cancel out the positive effects of the wage boost.

    Broadening the discussion

    It’s the media’s role to inform the public about reality, not to run sensational headlines about good intentions bringing disastrous consequences, as effective as that may be at attracting eyeballs. A solid start on the way to fulfilling this role would be for media outlets to consistently bring in experts to talk about the decades’ worth of research on the effects of minimum wage hikes. Some outlets already do this. Others, not so much.

    Even better would be for the media to more frequently broaden the discussion beyond the minimum wage to other policy changes that would complement the minimum wage or fill in its gaps, policies like expanded unemployment insurance, the Earned Income Tax Credit, a job guarantee, and universal basic income. The narrow focus on sensational events does little other than distort the picture. Taking a wider view would bring things into focus.

    At the moment, however, it might be best just to ask media outlets to stop trotting out propaganda lines that should have died a long time ago.

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  • The historic UAW strike of 2023 against the Big Three put a new face on one of the largest and oldest unions in the US. The UAW not only managed to face down the largest and most entrenched business interests in the auto sector—they did it with innovative strategy and a commitment to not only win concessions but build political power for a long-term struggle. And the union isn’t taking a break in 2024. Already, the UAW has thrown its weight behind support for a ceasefire in Gaza, and entered the fray of electoral politics by refusing a meeting with Trump. TRNN Reporter Mel Buer speaks with Teddy Ostrow, co-host of The Upsurge, along with Brandon Mancilla, director of UAW Region 9A, and Daniel Vicente, director of UAW Region 9, on the union’s recent victories and what we can expect in the year to come.

    Studio / Post-Production: David Hebden


    Transcript

    The following is a rushed transcript and may contain errors. A proofread version will be made available as soon as possible.

    Mel Buer:

    Welcome back, my friends to The Real News Network Podcast. I’m your host Mel Buer. I hope everyone had a wonderful holiday season and is finding these first weeks back to work more than tolerable. We’ve got an incredible season of The Real News Podcast planned for you this year with me at the helm, and I can’t wait to share some incredible conversations with you. Whether you’ve got our shows on while you’re making coffee in the morning, put our podcasts on during your commute to and from work, or give us a listen throughout the workday, The Real News Network is committed to bringing you ad-free independent journalism that you can count on. We care a lot about what we do and it’s through donations from dedicated listeners like you that we can keep on doing this work. Please consider becoming a monthly sustainer of The Real News Network by heading over to the realnews.com/donate.

    If you want to stay in touch and get updates about our work, then sign up for our free newsletter @therealnews.com/sign-up. As always, we appreciate your support in whatever form it takes. We’ve got a special episode to kick off the season today. As most of our listeners know, we’ve had the pleasure of publishing journalist and podcaster Teddy Ostrow’s incredible work for some time. His labor reporting has been integral to capturing a big piece of the picture of the US Labor Movement in recent years. And his podcast, The Upsurge, shed important light on such high profile labor actions as the 2023 UPS contract negotiations and the UAW’s 2023 standup strikes. The Upsurge has sadly ceased production, but episodes can be found on the realnews.com and over at In These Times. Given the content of today’s conversation, I’ve asked Teddy on to be my special guest co-host. Welcome, Teddy. Glad to see you back here at The Real News.

    Teddy Ostrow:

    Thanks for having me, Mel, and thank you for all those kind words. Now, the UAW had one heck of a year in 2023, and if all goes as planned, we’ll be saying the same thing at the start of 2025. As listeners probably know, in March last year, Shawn Fain and a slate of reformer candidates swept the union’s first one Member, one vote leadership elections. The group unite all workers for democracy. UAWD spearheaded the reform campaign and successfully ousted the business unionists that had run the union for nearly 80 years under the banner of the administration caucus.

    Then like clockwork, they wowed the world with one of the most successful contract campaigns in decades. They employed a novel strike strategy, what they called the standup strike, a nod to the GM sit downs that helped build the union in the 1930s. And in the end, workers from Ford General Motors and Stellantis won significant gains from the company, making up much of the ground lost to decades and decades of concessionary bargaining.

    Mel Buer:

    With workers around the country inspired by the newfound militancy of the UAW, the union leadership has now turned its sight onto organizing the non-union auto industry. Late last year, the union announced simultaneous campaigns at 13 automakers around the country, which, if successful, would bring 150,000 more workers into the union. Those campaigns and the union’s broader vision ahead is what we want to talk about with our guests. Today, we have Brandon Mancia, Director of UAW Region 9A, and Daniel Vicente, Director of UAW Region 9 on the show. Both are members of UAWD and were elected by members alongside Shawn Fain last year. Thanks for coming on the show, gentlemen.

    Brandon Mancia:

    Thank you for having us.

    Daniel Vicente:

    Yeah, thanks for having us. Nice to be here.

    Mel Buer:

    Right on. To kick things off in our conversation today, I thought it might be helpful to start by taking stock of the work that the UAW and its members have accomplished in 2023. I think that the union’s incredible work during the negotiations with the big three and the standup strikes is top of everyone’s mind when they think of recent UAW victories. So what were some of the big takeaways from last year? Any lessons learned from the organizing that was done?

    Brandon Mancia:

    I think Shawn Fain got elected at the end of March, so between his election, Dan’s election during that runoff and the rest of the slate that had gotten elected in December of the previous year, he had to hit the ground running, bringing in a team, making a plan for negotiations. And the very next day after he got sworn in as president, we had our bargaining convention. The convention where the delegates of the union elected throughout the membership would have to set the bargaining agenda for the big three contract campaign. So we had to get to work right away. There was no time to sit around and think things through. You had to go ahead and act immediately.

    And I think one of the most successful things that Shawn was able to pull off during those early months of his administration was to bring in some really talented, visionary strategic people onto staff, while also empower voices within the staff, within leadership, within the membership that had not gotten the opportunity to really go ahead and pull off something like this contract campaign. And I think that’s really important, right? Because this takes a lot of work and it takes unity and it takes a new direction, and Shawn really committed to that. But at the end of the day, a contract campaign like the one that we were able to launch against the big three was only going to be successful if the membership were at the heart of it and at the core of it.

    And you had to basically empower the membership to take the reins. And that’s what we did. We launched the contract campaign in which the expiration was, the deadline was a deadline, it was a real deadline. It was not a reference point. We would strike all three companies at once if necessary, if they did not bargain in good faith or they slow walked bargaining. And they would have to contend with our real ambitious demands, which honestly were just restoring a lot of things that were given away through concessionary bargaining. But that’s what the membership wanted. They wanted to fight. They wanted to have a sense of dignity and fight restored.

    Mel Buer:

    Dan, is there anything you’d like to add?

    Daniel Vicente:

    Yeah, Brandon’s absolutely right. Shawn Fain and the new executive board had to, in an insanely short amount of time, had to put together a campaign as quickly as possible to take on three of the largest corporations in the United States, some of the most important and historical companies in this country, and they were able to pull it off. But they were able to pull it off because of one guy. Shawn Fain will be the first one to tell you, he’s just a guy. He’s just one regular guy from Kokomo, Indiana. The reason we were able to be successful in our standup strike was because for the first time in living memory, the UAW leadership engaged our membership in a campaign to fight for what we believed was our rightful due, what was due to us. And that hasn’t happened in decades. Decades.

    The previous leadership is not a secret. A lot of them were sent to prison on corruption charges. Brandon and I come out of the reform movement and we ran against longstanding incumbents that were part of that administration caucus. And that caucus, like any one party system, had become stagnant and stuck in its ways. And it fostered an environment where you weren’t allowed to question or rock the boat or try to push for anything aggressive in bargaining. You were just supposed to get the contract signed, shut up, and stay in your place. And that’s really how the union ran itself. And I mean, as new directors on the board, we’ve run into a lot of it. We have great people on our staffs, it’s just they’ve never been empowered to take aggressive bargaining stances. So it’s a completely new environment for a lot of our staff members.

    And frankly, a lot of them are really, really engaged now and are pumped up, and wanted it to be this way for a long time. If anything good came out of the corruption, which all those dudes, F those dudes that went to prison, all of them. But if anything good came out of it, it was that it laid bare the completely unacceptable situation that was able to grow inside of the UAW. And it urged people like Brandon, myself and a bunch of other reform people to get involved, run for local offices, push for one member, one vote. And when members, when citizens people and whatever organization get involved, we can make legitimate tangible changes to the systems that exist. The systems were built by people that anticipated engagement.

    And when we don’t engage, when we think we can’t change anything and everything’s a done deal and nothing’s ever going to change, then you’re right, nothing will change. When we get involved, when we engage ourselves in our institutions, our unions, what-have-you, we can change things. And the standup strike was successful because our people were ready to fight. They just needed somebody to show them how to do it, and Shawn Fain is that dude.

    Mel Buer:

    Before we move on to, because I do want to talk about the momentum that has been built by this reform movement and what 2024 and beyond looks like, Teddy’s going to bring up some great questions, but the one point that I want to make is I’m kind of reminded of Jane McAlevey’s book where she talks about unions as an institution, a democratic institution. And when the democratic institution is failing, in some way, the way to try and affect change is really to get involved and to see if you can kind of push the needle in the other direction.

    And it’s really cool to be a member of the labor movement and seeing what the reform movement has done, and to see such an incredible victory right out of the gate. It proves the point that if you have engaged members who are willing and able to put in some work and are willing and able to really push for reform in an institution like the UAW, you can see some really incredible material gains come out of it, right? It’s really fantastic to see that. Brandon?

    Brandon Mancia:

    We’ve never done a contract campaign before, at least not since the years of Walter Reuther. I mean, and what that means is it’s some very basic stuff. It’s like getting informed of what the contract demands are, right? Holding communication and transparent Facebook lives in which we get updates on what negotiations, how they’re going, right? It’s holding rallies, it’s wearing red shirts on Wednesday, it’s wearing pins, having informational meetings at the shop level, right? Not just waiting for someone to tell you what to do, but actively taking direct action with each other. At the regions, that’s a lot of the work we had to do, right? You can’t just have everything done by Detroit. You got to do it at the shop level, at the local level, too.

    And through that, I think so many members were able to get engaged, whether it was just putting on Facebook Live once a week to hear what Shawn had to say or whether it was going to a rally or going to a local meeting or getting informed about strike strategy and that kind of stuff. It was a whole movement. I think that was unleashed simply because the members were trusted to understand the importance of their demands and how important this contract was going to be. It was going to be an existential fight. If we didn’t reverse a lot of these concessions and wins strong contracts and get cost of living back, what good was this union going to be for if we didn’t actually chart a future?

    So by the time the standup strike came, the deadline, members were bought in, they were ready to go to battle and hit the picket lines. And it took a membership, a leadership, a team around Shawn too, that understood where the leverage was in the industry, right? We’ve got wall-to-wall coverage at the big three at GM and Solanis. We know their pressure points, we know their money makers. We know what they hate seeing out in the media and what they would not want to have be publicly shamed about. And we went for it. And they knew that. A lot of folks asked, “Why didn’t you take everybody all at once?” That would’ve been awesome. But at the same time, building up that pressure week to week, keeping them on their toes, not knowing what was coming next, making the strike national, not just a few plants here and there in the Midwestern, the South, they weren’t ready. The companies weren’t ready and they had no choice but to concede.

    Daniel Vicente:

    For our purposes, with all of our contracts, we usually have the most leverage in the 11th hour right before the contracts set to expire because the company, up at that point, they’re following a playbook, but they don’t know, are you really going to do it? Are you not going to do it? So there is a crazy amount of leverage in keeping them off of their game because these are businesses, they’re doing multi-billion dollar conglomerates. Everything runs off of a plan. They make plans, long-term plans, short-term plans, that risk assessments, all that stuff. But if the standup strike had them so unbalanced, they couldn’t get a plan together. They were shipping product to other plants anticipating that we were going to take out transmission plants. And then we were laughing because we’re not taking out the transmission plans, we’re taking out this… They had no idea what to do.

    And our membership for so long was conditioned to believe that “blackout bargaining” was the standard, and that’s how you have to do it, which was for those that aren’t familiar, blackout bargaining is a type of bargaining where your leadership doesn’t communicate with you the shop floor rank and filer at all during negotiations. They just basically say, “Trust us, we have your best interest at heart.” And they go behind closed doors and they come out a month or two later and tell you, “This is the best we were going to get.” And Brandon and I have seen, I mean, we were shop rank and filer guys, so we saw what that was. What the results of that wasn’t was garbage. We end up with garbage increases in our wages. We pay more for healthcare, everything. Everything you can imagine. And what I think the standup strike tapped into was something broader than just the United Auto Workers.

    There is a feeling not just amongst one generation or the other, but just working Americans in general, that we went through the Occupy Wall Street, we had hope in Obama. There’s the Bernie Sanders. We’ve been waiting for a movement to come along or a political party to come along and be the new standard bearer of the working class. And it hasn’t happened, and it’s not going to happen frankly, from the two long-term parties we’ve had in this country where you can make tangible, actual changes to your actual life is in organized labor. Because you have a voice at the table over how much money you make, how much you pay in healthcare, how much time do you have to spend at work. You get to not dictate terms, but negotiate terms of your actual day-to-day life. And that’s something that the Democrats or Republicans can’t give to us right now or they’re not willing to help us out with.

    So something is growing not just in the UAW, not just in the Teamsters, but across the labor movement and the unorganized in this country that we’ve had quite enough. And it’s getting to a point, I think, that working people, because we work with each other every day, we don’t always have the same political beliefs, we don’t all have the same type of lives, but we somehow find a way to go to work every day with each other and not be at each other’s necks. Because if my life, if I’m struggling, the guy next to me is probably struggling just as hard. So the talking heads on the traditional mainstream media can tell you the economy’s doing better, but milk is still out of control. Gas is too high. I spend 60 hours a week in a factory. I don’t get to see my kids.

    And the guy next to me who’s a Trump supporter, he don’t get to see his kids. And the guy next to me who is a SUNY Muslim, he don’t get to see his kids. Our lives suck equally. So we are starting to band together to say, “Enough is enough. We’re not waiting for anybody to come save us. We’re going to have to do it ourselves.” And right now, what we are able to accomplish in the standup strike is tangible. You can see that, your paycheck shows you that. So that is what that we were able to tap into, and it’s something that we need to foster and to educate and just try to organize more because if it’s making our lives better, it’ll make your lives better wherever you’re at.

    Teddy Ostrow:

    I think that’s such a good point. You’re talking about this sort of synergy that, to Brandon’s point, was in a very short period of time, sort of harnessed by the union, came through the membership. And I just wanted to say my experience as a reporter reporting on the strike in Michigan, in Ohio, and when I saw you, Dan in New York, everyone was telling me as if they were totally media prepped, the exact same thing, saying what you’re saying, saying, “Look, we need better wages. We need to get rid of this temp issue. We need to eliminate the tiers.” They were saying the whole nine yards, there was unity. And what I’ve heard from observers of the 2018 GM strike when I was not reporting on the sector, was that it wasn’t necessarily clear to workers and to the media what people were fighting for. And that’s different this time around.

    Now, there’s a lot we can say about 2023, but I do think this is a good segue to talk about 2024, and maybe even further than that, we can talk about 2028 maybe. But first, I just want to hear, tell us now about the campaigns that the UAW launched late last year. 13 non-union automakers, as I understand, 150,000 workers invited by the union basically to organize all at once. I just saw that 30% of workers at a Mercedes plant in Alabama, in the south of all places, importantly, have signed union cards. This is a really serious wager. I think the UAW made a really serious wager going out on strike last year, trusting the workers, and it seems they’re doing the same here.

    They’re making that bet again, except for the non-union sector. We’ve seen organizing campaigns in the past decade at Volkswagen, Nissan, Tesla even, and they’ve either failed or never really materialized to anything very far. So first, can you tell us about that strategy that we’re seeing now for 2024 and beyond? But then help us understand what’s different this time around. What are you hearing from current members and also prospective members?

    Brandon Mancia:

    Yeah, so the first thing to know is that the UAW hasn’t won a wall to wall organizing drive at a major auto company in this country since before Dan and I were born. And we’re the two youngest members of the executive board. But for union not to win at one of these companies for decades is shameful. And yes, there has been an economic transformation in this country since then. Yes, the country and its leadership has become more anti-union in that period of time. But a lot of that has to do with us, too. We’ve been disorganized, we haven’t been focused, we’ve been concessionary. And why would folks join a union that leads to concessionary bargaining in tears? That was the big narrative and all these organizing drives that I would ultimately lose.

    It’s hard enough to win an organizing drive when you’ve got a boss and politicians, especially in the south, that are pouring a ton of money into beating you back. It’s even harder when the union itself is not in a position to actually stand up for workers and show you that it’s actually worth joining a union like the UAW. So when Shawn and the team took office, it was very clear that we were not going to be able to successfully organize if we didn’t win the standup strike and reach record contracts because what good would it be for? So by ending wage tiers, getting a 25% raise, improving retirement security, securing a path to adjust transition as we go to electric vehicle work, all this stuff was essential to be able to set up ourselves to launch organizing drives and it’s playing out in this way. We did the contract and now it’s organizing, right?

    But I got to be honest with you, that’s not actually how it’s happening. What happened was in the middle of the standup strike, seeing how much we were fighting, seeing the gains we were winning, auto workers across these plants across the country started organizing on their own. They were looking for expired cards, UAW cards they could find on the internet and filling those out thinking that that’s what it would take to join a union. The enthusiasm was there. The self-organizing was already happening. And so right now, honestly, what we’re doing is just helping workers that want to inform a union with their union. That’s what we’re doing, we’re supporting workers. So we’ve launched this ambitious campaign to organize all of the companies, but it’s because the traditional model of slowly, secretly building your union committee and getting to the point of winning an election, it’s just not going to work.

    Because right now, the moment to strike is right now, we got to be able to organize and win right now. And the companies know that, which is why they’ve matched the wages that we were able to win in the contract campaign for the big three workers because they’re trying to preempt all of this, right? They want to avoid unionization because if they can match 25% or at very least 11% for year one in raises, that means they got a lot more to give. And they know that if we successfully organize, we’re going to have to actually win even better record contracts at the non-Union facilities right now. So this is the moment. It’s not just the auto sector. It’s workers across the country from higher ed to gaming to different office workers and other manufacturing sectors. They’re all reaching out to the UAW right now because they want to organize. And this is the moment right now that we have to organize the working class, especially in places like the South where there’s so much work to do.

    Daniel Vicente:

    Yeah, like I said earlier, the standup strike seems to have tapped into a general feeling across this country of just the system that we live in is not fair. The system’s not set up to provide you a lifestyle or a pathway into a lifestyle that was enjoyed by our grandparents and our parents. And was an expectation for generations that if you work hard and you buckle down, you graduate high school, you don’t have to go and get a degree, you can work in a factory or you could get a blue collar job and you can buy a house and you can have a car, two cars, you can take care and build a family. And those pathways, particularly since the economic recession, particularly for auto workers, were not available. They were just not available. And what’s different this time, as Brandon was explaining, was the last time it was the UAW going out and being like, “Hey, join us. Look at us. Look how great we are. Look at our very storied history,” which is storied and it is very important.

    But if you’re some worker in a Volkswagen plant down south, what do you care what happened in 1932 or a sit down strike? What does that mean to you? It doesn’t mean anything. Tangible things, money, wages, healthcare, working conditions, these mean something to you. And the other part of it too, is this time going around, it isn’t, “Look at us, look at us. We’re so great.” It’s people saw what we were doing, fighting for our people, trying to make their lives better. And we’re saying to them, “Look how much the people around you are struggling. Look how much you’re struggling.” Because like I said, we’re rank and filers. I sat at the kitchen table and cried with my wife because I didn’t know how I was going to pay bills.

    I didn’t have the heart to tell my kids sometimes, “I don’t know how I’m going to get you into this field hockey league or something. That stuff’s expensive. And in order to get that equipment, I’m going to have to pull mad overtime hours, so I’m not going to see you.” These are real things that we live through. And then you look at what the CEOs and the bosses are making, it’s astronomically… It’s not even close to your life. It’s not close to your life. And the other part, during the whole standup strike too, in the regions particularly, we work in the plants, we know these people. We know the middle level, middle management types. A lot of them dudes are cool, and a lot of them get mistreated, too. And they would be coming to us on the side and saying, “Keep doing what you’re doing. Keep doing what you’re doing.” Because these companies mistreat not just their blue collar workers, but their middle management types, too. They mistreat them, they lean on them. We see it every day.

    And Teddy, you’re right, it is a wager, it’s a gamble really, because resources are going into this and money’s being spent. But the main difference with this new executive board with Shawn Fain is this money doesn’t exist to propel the institution of the UAW. This money exists. The dues that go in, people say all the time, “Oh, well, the unions just want your dues.” Dues money go into the union so that we can organize the working class. That’s why dues money go in, and we are using that money to try to organize working Americans. We don’t care who you vote for, we don’t care your religious backgrounds, we don’t care what kind of lifestyle you live, we don’t care your sexual orientation, none of that matters.

    What matters on a line, what matters if you’re a nurse, and wherever you work, can you do the job? Do you make my life easier being next to me, or do you make it harder? Because if you can do the job, I got you, bro. We’re going to have each other’s backs out there because we’re just trying to get through this shift. And that’s what most Americans, that’s their day-to-days. That’s what we know. And so this drive isn’t about, oh, we’re going to come in and we’re going to lead you and we’re going to build this new incident. No, we’re going to give you the tools to elect your own people. You run your own shop. You tell us what you need from us, and we’ll get you the resources and open the doors to try to fight and make your lives better.

    And if you want to come on and be a part of this team, we’re so proud that you want to come on. We’re so proud for you taking them steps. And once you’re in here, once you sign these cards, we got your back for life. We call each brothers and sisters for a reason, because we spend more time with each other than with our families. And so if somebody’s coming at you, they’re coming at me. And it’s just not something that this new UAW is about. We are tired of being pushed over and rolled over. We do have power, but we only have power when we act collectively. And the more people that are organized across all sectors, the more power we will have in this country to actually force institutional change to how the society is run. Because right now, it’s not fair, it’s not equitable, and people are falling into despair.

    And I think we’re seeing that across the United States. People don’t see legitimate pathways forward anymore through the traditional political paths. And so they’re turned into crazies. The labor movement has an answer for that. We fight to get paid so that we can live stable middle class lives. Because when people are stable and they have lives where they can see their families and live… Because we’re not lazy. We want to work, but we just don’t want to have to live there. When we have pathways to build a family so we don’t have to sweat it all the time so our kids can be safe, our spouses can be safe, taken care of, you won’t see these radicals popping up, because who wants to be a radical? People are just trying to live.

    Teddy Ostrow:

    You guys have sort of spoken to this already. You’ve hinted at it, and that’s the UAW’s broader vision, I think, for the labor movement. And that’s a part of what I think we are trying to also get at not just 2024, but also specifically concretely beyond that, 2028, which was of course, mayday 2028 is now the new expiration of the big three contracts. And Shawn Fain, the UAW leadership has explicitly called on other unions to come out and set their contract expirations on that date. Of course, there’s a symbolism to mayday the importance of the haymarket affair, but also what this means is potentially setting up the conditions for a general strike of some sort. Can you speak to that specific contractual change, that vision, but more broadly, the vision that the UAW has going forward for the broader labor movement, for the working class.

    Brandon Mancia:

    So I think we want to build a labor movement that is fighting together, and the call for lining up contracts, so they expire on mayday of ’28 is exactly that, to give everyone the opportunity to plan ahead, look at what you got right now, get things in order so that we have a target that is in common for everybody. So we’re doing the work of internally within our locals, outside of the big three, also lining up contracts in the different sectors, but also outreach and talking to different unions, different national and international unions. Because imagine how powerful a strike and the kinds of political demands we could have of this country if auto workers and teachers and nurses and all kinds of different kinds of workers are on strike or threatening to strike at the same time.

    That’s the idea. We don’t do enough of that in this country because in the labor room and in this country, we’re all segmented, we’re all doing different things. And another great thing that happened last year is that we were on strike, the writers were on strike, the screen actors were on strike, UPS had a contract campaign that really inspired and set the model for everyone, I think didn’t ultimately go on strike, but there was just a lot of energy. And if you found yourself in a certain city or town, you might have some other union also on strike and out on the picket line, and we could link up. So there were so many times where actors were coming to UAW picket lines and UAW workers were going out to other picket lines, and we were visiting each other and talking to each other, and that was incredible. That’s the kind of energy that we want in the labor movement.

    And I think the 2028 plan, the vision there is what if we actually coordinated for that? What if we actually intentionally planned around a target date like that so that we all have a deadline to look forward to and are organizing for? And organizing is something you’re in for the long haul. So with all these auto contracts, so sorry, auto organizing drives we have going on right now, we’re going to be fighting for years there to win what those workers deserve. So I think by the time we get to the table, again with the big three, Shawn has said, “We don’t want it to be just the big three. We want to be the big six, the big seven, the big eight. Whatever it is, we want to be able to come to the table with a lot more leverage.”

    Just speaking for the auto sector, there’s some things we didn’t win in this contract campaign. We ended waged tears and got COLA back and got a big raise, and it made a lot of strides for just transition and ending temp abuse. But we didn’t get pensions back for everybody. We didn’t get post-retirement healthcare back for everybody. Those things are the product of not because we didn’t strike hard enough or whatever. It was because we don’t have the density right now in the auto sector to have big transformative demands. We won those things when we were 80, 90% of the auto sector. We’re not that anymore. We’re around 40% maybe. So much of the sector is non-union and a lot of those things, our politicians have failed us. They’ve left retirees behind, they’ve left people sick. And without health insurance where Medicaid and Medicare aren’t enough, that’s not on unions.

    And that’s not just a company issue. That’s a political crisis in this country that we don’t take care of our people when they’re in need. So we need to be building all of this worker power through the labor movement to make these demands of our politicians too, and not just our company. So I think all of that is behind the idea of building a broader labor movement. And 2028 is the date we float it out there for people.

    Mel Buer:

    I think that’s a really important thing to note. I live in Los Angeles, and a lot of my labor coverage from the summer was really taking the time to situate myself in the multiple strikes that had upended the city. The city lost billions of dollars in revenue because workers took their power and walked out. And they won record contracts as a result of that, right? The writers got a great contract, SAG got a great contract. Workers with Unite here are continuing to push the tourism industry to be paid fairly at the hotels that they work at. And the reporting that I did last summer, I did an article on the sort of intersolidarity that was happening where individuals who were maybe recently activated by hitting a picket line for the first time in their careers, especially younger workers, got a chance to really start to understand what that kind of solidarity looks like outside of their own shops and their writer’s rooms and whatever else.

    And I think it’s really important, the points that you’re bringing up, Brandon, about needing to continue to broaden that sort of outlook, right? National solidarity across unions. Because you do see that when you have major labor actions like the standup strikes, like the teacher strikes of the years past, they can bring an entire sector to its knees. And that is a really powerful thing to be a part of that, and to understand that you do have that political power. Being able to see these calls for general strikes that usually just kind of are thrown out into the internet and people say they want to do this deal, but don’t really understand how to start the actual organizing of something of that nature, to see that become part of UAW policy that this is something that we are wanting to prime ourselves for if we need or should use it, is refreshing to see.

    And I think it’s also really important to tie this into the sort of international solidarity that you’re also beginning to talk about. And I think this might be a good segue into conversations about international solidarity, especially as it relates to the Israel-Palestine conflict and the occupation of Palestine by Israel. The UAW has come out as one of the largest, if not the largest national unions to support a ceasefire in Palestine. Something that anti-war labor activists have welcomed, even as a lot of US unions have remained largely silent on the issue. I think it’s important to note for our listeners that the UAW has through their public positions, heated the call of Palestinian labor unions and displaying international solidarity with workers that are currently trapped under bombardment in Gaza.

    And have also joined the, what, a hundred plus international unions and other progressive or activist organizations that have called for a ceasefire in the region. Why do you think it is an important piece of this, that the union takes such a strong position in calling for an end to violence in this conflict? And how do you think that sits within the broader sort of conversation we’re having about international solidarity and what US labor can do to contribute to that building of that solidarity?

    Daniel Vicente:

    Yeah, so for me personally, I mean, it hits really close to home for multiple reasons. So I’m married to a Palestinian from the West Bank who currently is visiting family over in Jordan, and two of her brothers that do still currently live in the West Bank, were able to get over so they’re safe. But the conflict in Gaza is not contained currently just to Gaza. There are raids constantly in the West Bank right now. There is armed conflict happening in the West Bank that’s not being covered as much. But on top of that, I’m also a Marine Corps veteran of the Iraq War and the air campaign against Libya, and I’ve had questions for years. I’m proud of my service, proud to serve with my guys. But for years afterwards, it digs into your brain like, what the hell? Or excuse me, what was that about? What was the point of that? Did we achieve US foreign policy objectives? Did we make the world a safer place? Did we do any of that?

    And what I constantly come back to is, no. No, after 9/11, my opinion, we wanted revenge. We wanted revenge for a heinous terrorist attack against our country, which is on a human level, understandable. And for my purposes, I don’t speak for the entirety of the UAW, but for me as a human and as an American, I just want to make clear that I believe that we should and ought to remain allies with the state of Israel, right? I believe they have a right to exist. I believe they have a right to defend themselves from terrorist actions. But if we are truly their allies and their friends, your real friends don’t tell you what you want to hear when you want to hear it. They tell you what you need to hear, when you need to hear it.

    And we need to be telling our Israeli partners, our officials, our elected officials, need to be telling them, “You are doing exactly what we did after 9/11. We defeated Al-Qaeda in Iraq, and we laid the groundwork for ISIS to come to fruition. You are going to make it worse.” In the campaign that they are carrying out in Gaza currently, it is not a reasonable, it is not a well-thought out military campaign. It is not structured to find the Hamas terrorists that carried out the October 7th attacks. They are, in my opinion, carrying out collective action against an entire people because they want revenge. And they have officials in that country straight up telling in public, “We just want them to be repopulated somewhere else. We want them all to immigrate to Egypt or put them in Jordan and put them in Lebanon.”

    That is to me, my understanding of the Geneva Convention, my understanding of genocide. It checks all the boxes. It checks all the boxes. And there’s a narrative particularly on the right, that the only people upset by this outrageous campaign in Gaza are coastal, highly educated elites. And that’s not true. It’s simply not true. Regular Americans, middle of the country Americans are seeing, you can’t hide what’s happening. You’re seeing what’s happening. You are decimating entire areas, populated areas with human beings to kill one guy. It’s not acceptable. The other people and just being real saying, “Oh, well, the UAW signed a ceasefire agreement.” That doesn’t change anything. It’s not going to stop the bomb. You’re absolutely right. It’s not going to stop Benjamin Netanyahu from ordering the IDF to drop bombs, but we have to start somewhere.

    The UAW has had a long history in our past of supporting civil and human rights issues around the world because it was morally the right thing to do. It was morally just clearly right to do. It was right to oppose apartheid South Africa. It was right to speak out against the Vietnam War. And this is morally the right thing to do, and it’s a strange place for us to be because just frankly, we represent weapons manufacturers. And I just want to say it on here, the UAW stands for and believes in a robust military industry for the purposes of legitimate defense of the United States and her allies. For the legitimate defense and support of her allies.

    What’s happening right now in Gaza with the Israeli government, not the Jewish people, what the Israeli government is authorizing to happen to Palestinians is abhorrent. It’s a war crime, and it needs to be called out on every level. Every union should be calling this out. Every civil organization and every elected government officials should be calling this out because the United States should not support this. We’re the only country in the world that is supporting the nation state of Israel in this attack against these unarmed people. And it has to stop.

    Brandon Mancia:

    Yeah, no, I can just add to that. I think if the labor movement is going to have its role right now, which is I think the UAW is a part of building that as the conscious of this country, it’s going to have to speak out on these kinds of wars and acts of genocide. And I think the labor movement for too long has been silent or ignorant or intentionally ignorant on these issues. And it’s just straight up sided with Israel. And there’s a long documented history of that connection between the labor movement and the state of Israel. And I think it’s up to the point now where, like Dan said, you just can’t hide what’s happening anymore. You have to see it for what it is, and you have to call it out. So I commend UE and UFCW Local 3000 for publicly mobilizing this letter, this call for ceasefire within the labor movement.

    And so I don’t think UAW needs to get all the credit for labor’s turn on this. In fact, we are really late to it. But as part of this movement that is engaging the membership, creating a democratic union, a union that stands in solidarity with not just working people in this country, but poor and oppressed people all over the world, this was the right thing to do. And we’re very happy to see that. I think following our call for ceasefire, so many other unions, especially large unions, not just local unions or individual shops, have also followed the call. 1199’s statement was amazing in terms of linking the struggle for healthcare workers in this country to the bombing of hospitals and healthcare workers in Gaza.

    So there’s so many connections. Think of all the journalists that have been killed. Those are workers, humanitarian workers. The violence has to end, and the labor movement is good at negotiating agreements. That’s the path here. It’s peace so that you can negotiate lasting peace and justice for all people, not more warfare.

    Daniel Vicente:

    If the conflict expands from Gaza to Lebanon, then to, who knows, if the Iranians are already pushing the limits with the Yemeni, the Houthis movement, and Yemen, if the conflict expands, and why this is important to us, blue collar working people, it’ll be our children, us and our kids that have to go fight that conflict. It will not be the sons and daughters of bankers or senators. We have seen this, I mean, we’ve seen this. We know this. This is not just something new. It’ll be us that have to do this, blue collar people. And for our purposes, we do not want to see another conflict blow out of control where we’re having to send American sons and daughters overseas to a conflict that does not make us a safer nation. It does not meet or achieve US strategic goals in the world of making us a safer or adjuster world. It makes it worse, and that’s why it’s important for labor to speak on it because we’re the grunts.

    Mel Buer:

    I think it’s important to kind of circle back around a little bit, kind of discuss a little bit of what might seem to some outsiders, some of our audience who hear that the UAW represents members who are directly involved in weapons manufacturing or are working for one of the, what, five manufacturers in this country who supply the vast majority of arms to Israel. It seems like an irreconcilable contradiction that there are members of UAW, but the wider labor movement who are anti-war, but also have to contend with the fact that there’s a non-insignificant number of people who are benefiting economically as members of the working class in shops that are manufacturing weapons, weapons of war, being a part of the military industrial complex as it’s called.

    So I think maybe if we took some time to kind of untangle this for our listeners, Jeff Shirkey had a great analysis in Jewish currents last month where he notes that one of the UAW’s big victories in the negotiations with the big three was a commitment towards just transition within EV plants. And he kind of makes the case that there have been conversations in past generations with the UAW that there is such an idea as sort of just transition away from weapons of war, for example, or what do they call it, conversion initiatives. And so I’m wondering if that’s kind of part of some of the thoughts that you’re having is you’re thinking about ways to better serve your membership.

    But also potentially maybe begin the conversation of is there a sort of way that we can kind of divest ourselves from the military industrial complex and move towards this sort of peacetime economy economic items that by all intents and purposes, may actually be a better job for individuals, a longer lasting job, one that has better benefits or something of that nature. I guess really it’s kind of a roundabout way of let’s have this conversation and see what we can pull out of this for our listeners so they get a better understanding of what’s going on within organizing in the UAW. And if this is part of the, how do you grapple with this, I guess.

    Daniel Vicente:

    So our historic president, Walter Reuther, before the treaty of what was called the Treaty of Detroit, he had a broader vision for what the labor movement could be. And that labor should be at the table making decisions for investments in companies, but also should be at the table for what society should look like overall. But you’re right, it’s a very strange place to be when you represent weapons manufacturers. That’s their livelihoods, but you’re also calling for a ceasefire. We have a lot of work to do to educate our membership as to why it’s important to pay attention to where our products end up.

    Many of you would know when ISIS just popped onto the scene from what it seemed to us in 2013, ’14, they were all driving Toyotas. I guarantee a Toyota did not want their products associated with that. We have a responsibility to track where our products are used and for what purposes. We need to start looking collectively, not just in the UAW, but across all unions and across industry in general as to what do we want this society, what are our priorities as a country, as a people? And we have to have these hard conversations. Transitioning the military industrial complex into a peace time thing, that’s decades of work, but that’s again, labor is going to have to be at the table with not just other labor unionists with politicians.

    And we spoke a little bit about what a general strike, if we could legitimately start laying the groundwork as working class Americans for a general strike, we could start to legitimately influence politicians to change drastically the stances they take when they go back to the capitol, when they go to the hill and represent us. It’s just we have been conditioned for so long in this country to believe that we can’t change anything. Everything is the way it is. And right now, like I said, regular people care first about tangible things. If you can start to get them wins to make their lives better, you can start to branch out and explain to them the broader system and how unfair it is.

    And not just in our society, but how we treat the world, our global policies, how we interact globally with the rest of the world, these things need to change. And it’s a hard thing to hear for some Americans, because we’ve been brought up and told, we’re the best country in the world and we’re always this noble, just nation, just the best people. And we could, we can be the best. We could be this nation of progressive forward-thinking, trying to make the world a better place. But facts would suggest that’s not how we have acted, not in my lifetime.

    So we have to look at in the mirror, see and acknowledge that because it’s like if you have a drinking problem or drug problem, if you don’t acknowledge it first, you’re not going to fix it. We don’t always act equitably or fairly. We did terrible things across the world. The military industrial complex pushed us to do terrible things in Iraq and Afghanistan. We don’t have to continue down that road. Is there a way to transition armament factories into different types of products? Sure, but that’s going to take more than just the UAW. That’s going to take all of us collectively saying enough is enough.

    Brandon Mancia:

    Also, I’ll add to that by basically saying briefly that the main difference, and I know the Jeff Shirkey piece you’re pointing to, which I think is a brilliant kind of history of that idea. The one thing that’s missing is that the transition to EV was forced upon us. The companies wanted to force the EV transition on us so they can get rid of the UAW, get rid of unions. Shawn called it the race to the bottom so that all workers went down with the transition to the green economy. The idea of the just transition in the EV sector was, no, we need to transition to a green economy to make a sustainable planet, but you’re not going to sacrifice workers and working communities and families in that process.

    Right now, there is no anti-war capitalism that exists that is pushing an unjust transition to an anti-war economy. So what labor has to do in this moment, and this war is a perfect kind of example of what needs to happen, we need to have a conversation about what kind of movement we’re building. Is it an anti-war movement? Is it a movement for peace? Is it a movement for a different way for the US to act in the world? These are all the questions that the labor movement used to ask of itself, and it doesn’t anymore. So I think that’s a much bigger question, but it’s not going to come because the companies are doing it. It’s going to come because we as a movement are talking about it. So we’re discussing it as a union, and I think that’s at this moment what we’re building towards. But yeah, I think that aspect is really important to remember here.

    Daniel Vicente:

    If I may too, because I’ve seen some people say, “Well, the ceasefire letter was a nice first start, but why don’t you take more tangible step? Why don’t you shut down those factories?” And what people have to remember is we have collective bargaining agreements with these companies, which, so if we were to just walk everybody out, which our membership would not be required to do because an active contract, it would be a wild catch strike, and those people could all be fired immediately. They could lose their livelihoods. And I don’t think anybody listening to that would suggest that anyone should just walk out and lose their livelihood and how they pay their bills.

    But we do need to start laying the groundwork and thinking and discussing how do we at the next bargaining session for these contracts, how do we get language in there to give us pathways so that we can apply more pressure? How do we take more ownership of how these products are used? These are the conversations we need to start having now. So just to walk everybody out or to blockade the front gate, that wouldn’t do nothing for a rank and filer except put your job at risk. And if you want to lose momentum, if you want to lose people, and absolutely never have them listen to anything you say, go ahead and threaten their livelihoods and their jobs. I just want to put that out there.

    Mel Buer:

    Thank you. I just wanted to say thanks for taking the time before Teddy kind of moves us into our probably last bit of conversation. But thank you for taking the time to just have an honest chat about this, and to start to untangle some of the really thorny subjects that kind of come up when we talk about this kind of activism, when we talk about Labor’s role in these kind of movements. So thank you, and I really appreciate that we could have a bit of this conversation. So I’ll pass it off to Teddy, but I just wanted to make that comment and I think our listeners will also appreciate what’s been said so far.

    Teddy Ostrow:

    Yeah, I totally agree with that. But we would be remiss if we didn’t ask a question that was at least indirectly related to the 2024 election. Sorry, everybody, if you’re like me and don’t like to talk about it. Just kidding, sort of. A lot of people, or a lot of media has focused on the UAW President Shawn Fain having harsh words for both Donald Trump and Joe Biden for different and similar reasons. And Fain made a statement that I think points to the newly class struggle orientation of the union that the UAW is dedicated to fighting the billionaire class, which includes people like Donald Trump. That we can’t keep electing billionaires, millionaires whose interests are opposite those of the working class.

    And we’ve been talking about the UAW representing the working class, the workers of the union, but also the broader working class. And all of this comes even as the president of the Teamsters, Sean O’Brien has met with Trump, which caused an uproar among some members and certainly among the labor left. But on the “other side”, we’ve also seen the UAW leadership indicate that it is not going to hand out cheap endorsements to Democrats like Biden, who has done frankly very little to ensure auto workers and other workers have a bright unionized future.

    And this is pretty atypical for unions who I think have been somewhat of lapdogs for Democrats for a long time. So I wanted to ask you guys, how do you think the UAW or unions in general should be engaging with electoral politics or with politics more broadly, more expansively? And also, how are you guys handling or would like to handle the admittedly sticky, uncomfortable political tensions that exist within the union within many unions, which in the electoral realm at least, includes substantial proportion of the membership expressing support for a billionaire that is Trump?

    Brandon Mancia:

    Yeah, so I can start. Basically, the truth is a lot of our members did vote for Donald Trump in the two elections in which he ran. And part of having a democratic union is working through that, talking about that. And there was a reason why Democrats had not been coming to the table for working people for decades. And I think that that’s the story we’ve seen in state, after state in this country is working people, middle class people turning to the Republicans because of the betrayal of the Democratic Party. But I do want to be clear that the UAW is not to endorse Donald Trump. Shawn Fain has said as much publicly that every fiber of our unions being is going to be fighting the billionaire class that enriches people like Donald Trump.

    Joe Biden, for all his faults, came to the picket line right after we took a hard stance of him about how he had dashed out these subsidies for the EV transition. He showed up to the picket line. Julie Sue and the Department of Labor has been working with the UAW through the negotiations to work on the just transition. And what did Donald Trump do? Donald Trump went to visit a non-union auto plant, a parts plant in Michigan when he could have easily come to a UW picket line and made his case for members who voted for him, members who didn’t vote for him, and have student solidarity with our strike. He bashed the strike.

    So of course, there’s going to be members who support Trump or are disappointed with Biden, but the truth is we’re not going to be a union that’s going to stand by a candidate like Trump who as president, tries to basically install a dictatorship and keep himself as president and was no friend of working people. He wanted to outsource every job and for all his talk about manufacturing coming back to the US, manufacturing kept going on in decline during his presidency. There was no growth in manufacturing jobs, good middle class jobs, good union jobs. So that definitely has to be said.

    Daniel Vicente:

    I’m so glad that Brandon’s here to give the more reasonable approach. So I’ll give you the more factory approach. F Donald Trump. He’s an orange clown. He has no business being the president of the United States, and we have to oppose him organized labor. We have to oppose him with every fiber of our being. And you’re right, in my opinion, there are members… I’m not going to beat around the bush. There are certain elements of our membership that voted Donald Trump because of the white supremacy part of it. That’s just a part of it. That’s a very slim minority of them. The majority of the people that I think voted for Donald Trump is because they feel that they have been failed. So overwhelmingly failed by the traditional political establishment in this country, both Democrat and Republican.

    So they felt like, hey, I’ll give this guy a shot. What’s the worst that could happen? I’ll throw a grenade in a room and see what happens. Let’s just vote for chaos and see what happens If that man comes back as president, he is saying what he’s going to do, he’s laying it out. Labor unions are going to be under attack. The NLRB is going to be completely changed. We are going to face massive… And the UAW particularly because he asked us straight up for an endorsement, he is going to come at us specifically. And listen, Joe Biden is not my first choice either. He’s 107 years old. But it is at this point, the choice comes down to do we believe, legitimately as Americans and the Democratic principles that this country was founded on, that life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, do we still believe that a representative democratic institution is how we should run our country? Or do we think that we should hand it over to right wing nutbags who want to create some sort of Italian fascist state or something?

    It’s not acceptable. We cannot allow it to happen and we absolutely have to oppose him and we have to call him out for what he is. The man is a man, no offense, Brandon, but he’s a Manhattanite millionaire who’s never struggled a day in his life. The dude doesn’t know your struggle. The dude has never had to work a factory. The dude, as much as I disagreed with John McCain, the dude got five deferments from Vietnam and then trashed a Vietnam veteran, which I will never forgive. I personally will never forgive. The dude’s a clown. The dude is a clown and he’s playing you. And I would ask that every working person in this country try to look and look at what his policies did for you and your actual life, tangible things, didn’t make it better. Didn’t make it better. If you are a multinational conglomerate, certainly made your business better. But if you work, if you’re a working person, he attacked your lifestyle constantly in his time as president. And if he’s allowed to come back, he’s coming at you even harder. It’ll be Trump 2.0 this time when a vengeance.

    Brandon Mancia:

    I’m a proud New Yorker, and I disown Donald Trump.

    Daniel Vicente:

    God bless you.

    Mel Buer:

    I think we’re kind of getting to the place where we might be able to wind down this conversation a little bit. So I think just a sort of final thought here and a bit of an anecdote. I did reporting on the Kellogg’s picket line in 2021, and I spent a lot of time with my neighbors in Omaha, Nebraska who represent all sort of manners of the political spectrum. And the reality is no matter who you voted for and folks, we had lots of conversations on the line, you can kind of catch some of it in my previous reporting from years past. But without fail, especially in the Midwest, being able to sit down and talk politics on a picket line is kind of bread and butter. You know what I mean?

    And the reality is folks don’t really care about who you voted for because the common enemy is the boss who’s taking your pay out of your paycheck. And as long as you can trust the person you’re standing shoulder to shoulder with to suit up and show up at a picket line, to be able to stand together against this sort of injustices, this economic oppression that happens in this country, then there’s a way forward. And that’s kind of been my stance in terms of electoral politics in a long time since I’ve been covering the labor movements since I’m now. And I’ve been a member of the IWW for years, and I’m a member of the CWA News Guild now, and it’s the same thing.

    We have differing opinions about how we participate in politics, but the reality is we can affect our material conditions now. And how we choose to engage with electoral politics in this country is sort of everyone’s decision is their own. I guess it’s a little middle of the road I guess. I don’t know, but that would be kind of my thoughts about that. Before we wrap up though, is there anything that we maybe haven’t touched on or something that Daniel or Brandon that you are excited about that you want to let our listeners know to watch to be aware of as we move further into 2024? Any organizing or anything exciting that you want to share?

    Daniel Vicente:

    For my part of it and Region 9, which is Pennsylvania, jersey and central and western New York, we’re getting more organizing tips and calls than we can handle currently at the moment. We don’t have enough heads covering and it’s from all different sectors. And if there’s anything that is filling me with some sort of enthusiasm and hope for the upcoming year, it’s that what happened during the pandemic, the fault lines were exposed so blatantly for everybody that the system, the society we are in does not value us. It is not fair. It does not allow us, like I’ve said, pathways that were enjoyed by our previous generations we’re organized. People are organizing.

    And if you’re listening to this and you’re in an unorganized shop, you’re listening to this because you’re interested in the labor movement, you’re interested in these types of things, the people around you are that, too. They might just not know that this exists. Start having conversations, start talking to people. And I know how it is at work, you don’t love everybody. But always remember, what’s good for me over here is probably good for that guy, too. It’s probably good for this lady over here. And you spend so much time in these workplaces, and you talk to each other and you get to know each other, and you meet people with radically different opinions and ideas from you. And you start to feel for them. You start to know their kids’ names. You start to know their parents or their wives or spouse’s names.

    And if you get nothing else out of this, try to take this, try to remember that feeling when you see one of your friends at work, they get let go for some garbage reason, for some nothing. That’s why we get into unionism, because we don’t like seeing our people get messed with. And if you’re listening to this because you don’t like seeing your people get messed with, and the only way that you can fight back against those who have against us who have not is if you organize and you join a union. I don’t care if it’s the UAW, I don’t care if you form your own union, I don’t care. You join the team. So it’s whatever, organize, join a union because collectively, only collectively, those who have not can fight against those who have.

    Teddy Ostrow:

    You heard it first, Region 9 will be endorsing the love candidate, Marian Williamson. Just kidding. You can wrap up now. Sorry.

    Mel Buer:

    Thank you so much, guys for coming on today’s show to talk about UAW’s, exciting organizing and to have a really good, I think, conversation about some of the more complex things that we run into when we are talking about organizing in this day and age. And thank you, Teddy Ostrow for joining me as co-host for this special episode. God, I hope I can bring you back on. It’s been a joy working with you again. But that’s it for us here at The Real News Network podcast. Once again, I am your host, Mel Buer.

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  • The historic UAW strike of 2023 against the Big Three put a new face on one of the largest and oldest unions in the US. The UAW not only managed to face down the largest and most entrenched business interests in the auto sector—they did it with innovative strategy and a commitment to not only win concessions but build political power for a long-term struggle. And the union isn’t taking a break in 2024. Already, the UAW has thrown its weight behind support for a ceasefire in Gaza, and entered the fray of electoral politics by refusing a meeting with Trump. TRNN Reporter Mel Buer speaks with Teddy Ostrow, co-host of The Upsurge, along with Brandon Mancilla, director of UAW Region 9A, and Daniel Vicente, director of UAW Region 9, on the union’s recent victories and what we can expect in the year to come.

    Studio / Post-Production: David Hebden


    Transcript

    The following is a rushed transcript and may contain errors. A proofread version will be made available as soon as possible.

    Mel Buer:

    Welcome back, my friends to The Real News Network Podcast. I’m your host Mel Buer. I hope everyone had a wonderful holiday season and is finding these first weeks back to work more than tolerable. We’ve got an incredible season of The Real News Podcast planned for you this year with me at the helm, and I can’t wait to share some incredible conversations with you. Whether you’ve got our shows on while you’re making coffee in the morning, put our podcasts on during your commute to and from work, or give us a listen throughout the workday, The Real News Network is committed to bringing you ad-free independent journalism that you can count on. We care a lot about what we do and it’s through donations from dedicated listeners like you that we can keep on doing this work. Please consider becoming a monthly sustainer of The Real News Network by heading over to the realnews.com/donate.

    If you want to stay in touch and get updates about our work, then sign up for our free newsletter @therealnews.com/sign-up. As always, we appreciate your support in whatever form it takes. We’ve got a special episode to kick off the season today. As most of our listeners know, we’ve had the pleasure of publishing journalist and podcaster Teddy Ostrow’s incredible work for some time. His labor reporting has been integral to capturing a big piece of the picture of the US Labor Movement in recent years. And his podcast, The Upsurge, shed important light on such high profile labor actions as the 2023 UPS contract negotiations and the UAW’s 2023 standup strikes. The Upsurge has sadly ceased production, but episodes can be found on the realnews.com and over at In These Times. Given the content of today’s conversation, I’ve asked Teddy on to be my special guest co-host. Welcome, Teddy. Glad to see you back here at The Real News.

    Teddy Ostrow:

    Thanks for having me, Mel, and thank you for all those kind words. Now, the UAW had one heck of a year in 2023, and if all goes as planned, we’ll be saying the same thing at the start of 2025. As listeners probably know, in March last year, Shawn Fain and a slate of reformer candidates swept the union’s first one Member, one vote leadership elections. The group unite all workers for democracy. UAWD spearheaded the reform campaign and successfully ousted the business unionists that had run the union for nearly 80 years under the banner of the administration caucus.

    Then like clockwork, they wowed the world with one of the most successful contract campaigns in decades. They employed a novel strike strategy, what they called the standup strike, a nod to the GM sit downs that helped build the union in the 1930s. And in the end, workers from Ford General Motors and Stellantis won significant gains from the company, making up much of the ground lost to decades and decades of concessionary bargaining.

    Mel Buer:

    With workers around the country inspired by the newfound militancy of the UAW, the union leadership has now turned its sight onto organizing the non-union auto industry. Late last year, the union announced simultaneous campaigns at 13 automakers around the country, which, if successful, would bring 150,000 more workers into the union. Those campaigns and the union’s broader vision ahead is what we want to talk about with our guests. Today, we have Brandon Mancia, Director of UAW Region 9A, and Daniel Vicente, Director of UAW Region 9 on the show. Both are members of UAWD and were elected by members alongside Shawn Fain last year. Thanks for coming on the show, gentlemen.

    Brandon Mancia:

    Thank you for having us.

    Daniel Vicente:

    Yeah, thanks for having us. Nice to be here.

    Mel Buer:

    Right on. To kick things off in our conversation today, I thought it might be helpful to start by taking stock of the work that the UAW and its members have accomplished in 2023. I think that the union’s incredible work during the negotiations with the big three and the standup strikes is top of everyone’s mind when they think of recent UAW victories. So what were some of the big takeaways from last year? Any lessons learned from the organizing that was done?

    Brandon Mancia:

    I think Shawn Fain got elected at the end of March, so between his election, Dan’s election during that runoff and the rest of the slate that had gotten elected in December of the previous year, he had to hit the ground running, bringing in a team, making a plan for negotiations. And the very next day after he got sworn in as president, we had our bargaining convention. The convention where the delegates of the union elected throughout the membership would have to set the bargaining agenda for the big three contract campaign. So we had to get to work right away. There was no time to sit around and think things through. You had to go ahead and act immediately.

    And I think one of the most successful things that Shawn was able to pull off during those early months of his administration was to bring in some really talented, visionary strategic people onto staff, while also empower voices within the staff, within leadership, within the membership that had not gotten the opportunity to really go ahead and pull off something like this contract campaign. And I think that’s really important, right? Because this takes a lot of work and it takes unity and it takes a new direction, and Shawn really committed to that. But at the end of the day, a contract campaign like the one that we were able to launch against the big three was only going to be successful if the membership were at the heart of it and at the core of it.

    And you had to basically empower the membership to take the reins. And that’s what we did. We launched the contract campaign in which the expiration was, the deadline was a deadline, it was a real deadline. It was not a reference point. We would strike all three companies at once if necessary, if they did not bargain in good faith or they slow walked bargaining. And they would have to contend with our real ambitious demands, which honestly were just restoring a lot of things that were given away through concessionary bargaining. But that’s what the membership wanted. They wanted to fight. They wanted to have a sense of dignity and fight restored.

    Mel Buer:

    Dan, is there anything you’d like to add?

    Daniel Vicente:

    Yeah, Brandon’s absolutely right. Shawn Fain and the new executive board had to, in an insanely short amount of time, had to put together a campaign as quickly as possible to take on three of the largest corporations in the United States, some of the most important and historical companies in this country, and they were able to pull it off. But they were able to pull it off because of one guy. Shawn Fain will be the first one to tell you, he’s just a guy. He’s just one regular guy from Kokomo, Indiana. The reason we were able to be successful in our standup strike was because for the first time in living memory, the UAW leadership engaged our membership in a campaign to fight for what we believed was our rightful due, what was due to us. And that hasn’t happened in decades. Decades.

    The previous leadership is not a secret. A lot of them were sent to prison on corruption charges. Brandon and I come out of the reform movement and we ran against longstanding incumbents that were part of that administration caucus. And that caucus, like any one party system, had become stagnant and stuck in its ways. And it fostered an environment where you weren’t allowed to question or rock the boat or try to push for anything aggressive in bargaining. You were just supposed to get the contract signed, shut up, and stay in your place. And that’s really how the union ran itself. And I mean, as new directors on the board, we’ve run into a lot of it. We have great people on our staffs, it’s just they’ve never been empowered to take aggressive bargaining stances. So it’s a completely new environment for a lot of our staff members.

    And frankly, a lot of them are really, really engaged now and are pumped up, and wanted it to be this way for a long time. If anything good came out of the corruption, which all those dudes, F those dudes that went to prison, all of them. But if anything good came out of it, it was that it laid bare the completely unacceptable situation that was able to grow inside of the UAW. And it urged people like Brandon, myself and a bunch of other reform people to get involved, run for local offices, push for one member, one vote. And when members, when citizens people and whatever organization get involved, we can make legitimate tangible changes to the systems that exist. The systems were built by people that anticipated engagement.

    And when we don’t engage, when we think we can’t change anything and everything’s a done deal and nothing’s ever going to change, then you’re right, nothing will change. When we get involved, when we engage ourselves in our institutions, our unions, what-have-you, we can change things. And the standup strike was successful because our people were ready to fight. They just needed somebody to show them how to do it, and Shawn Fain is that dude.

    Mel Buer:

    Before we move on to, because I do want to talk about the momentum that has been built by this reform movement and what 2024 and beyond looks like, Teddy’s going to bring up some great questions, but the one point that I want to make is I’m kind of reminded of Jane McAlevey’s book where she talks about unions as an institution, a democratic institution. And when the democratic institution is failing, in some way, the way to try and affect change is really to get involved and to see if you can kind of push the needle in the other direction.

    And it’s really cool to be a member of the labor movement and seeing what the reform movement has done, and to see such an incredible victory right out of the gate. It proves the point that if you have engaged members who are willing and able to put in some work and are willing and able to really push for reform in an institution like the UAW, you can see some really incredible material gains come out of it, right? It’s really fantastic to see that. Brandon?

    Brandon Mancia:

    We’ve never done a contract campaign before, at least not since the years of Walter Reuther. I mean, and what that means is it’s some very basic stuff. It’s like getting informed of what the contract demands are, right? Holding communication and transparent Facebook lives in which we get updates on what negotiations, how they’re going, right? It’s holding rallies, it’s wearing red shirts on Wednesday, it’s wearing pins, having informational meetings at the shop level, right? Not just waiting for someone to tell you what to do, but actively taking direct action with each other. At the regions, that’s a lot of the work we had to do, right? You can’t just have everything done by Detroit. You got to do it at the shop level, at the local level, too.

    And through that, I think so many members were able to get engaged, whether it was just putting on Facebook Live once a week to hear what Shawn had to say or whether it was going to a rally or going to a local meeting or getting informed about strike strategy and that kind of stuff. It was a whole movement. I think that was unleashed simply because the members were trusted to understand the importance of their demands and how important this contract was going to be. It was going to be an existential fight. If we didn’t reverse a lot of these concessions and wins strong contracts and get cost of living back, what good was this union going to be for if we didn’t actually chart a future?

    So by the time the standup strike came, the deadline, members were bought in, they were ready to go to battle and hit the picket lines. And it took a membership, a leadership, a team around Shawn too, that understood where the leverage was in the industry, right? We’ve got wall-to-wall coverage at the big three at GM and Solanis. We know their pressure points, we know their money makers. We know what they hate seeing out in the media and what they would not want to have be publicly shamed about. And we went for it. And they knew that. A lot of folks asked, “Why didn’t you take everybody all at once?” That would’ve been awesome. But at the same time, building up that pressure week to week, keeping them on their toes, not knowing what was coming next, making the strike national, not just a few plants here and there in the Midwestern, the South, they weren’t ready. The companies weren’t ready and they had no choice but to concede.

    Daniel Vicente:

    For our purposes, with all of our contracts, we usually have the most leverage in the 11th hour right before the contracts set to expire because the company, up at that point, they’re following a playbook, but they don’t know, are you really going to do it? Are you not going to do it? So there is a crazy amount of leverage in keeping them off of their game because these are businesses, they’re doing multi-billion dollar conglomerates. Everything runs off of a plan. They make plans, long-term plans, short-term plans, that risk assessments, all that stuff. But if the standup strike had them so unbalanced, they couldn’t get a plan together. They were shipping product to other plants anticipating that we were going to take out transmission plants. And then we were laughing because we’re not taking out the transmission plans, we’re taking out this… They had no idea what to do.

    And our membership for so long was conditioned to believe that “blackout bargaining” was the standard, and that’s how you have to do it, which was for those that aren’t familiar, blackout bargaining is a type of bargaining where your leadership doesn’t communicate with you the shop floor rank and filer at all during negotiations. They just basically say, “Trust us, we have your best interest at heart.” And they go behind closed doors and they come out a month or two later and tell you, “This is the best we were going to get.” And Brandon and I have seen, I mean, we were shop rank and filer guys, so we saw what that was. What the results of that wasn’t was garbage. We end up with garbage increases in our wages. We pay more for healthcare, everything. Everything you can imagine. And what I think the standup strike tapped into was something broader than just the United Auto Workers.

    There is a feeling not just amongst one generation or the other, but just working Americans in general, that we went through the Occupy Wall Street, we had hope in Obama. There’s the Bernie Sanders. We’ve been waiting for a movement to come along or a political party to come along and be the new standard bearer of the working class. And it hasn’t happened, and it’s not going to happen frankly, from the two long-term parties we’ve had in this country where you can make tangible, actual changes to your actual life is in organized labor. Because you have a voice at the table over how much money you make, how much you pay in healthcare, how much time do you have to spend at work. You get to not dictate terms, but negotiate terms of your actual day-to-day life. And that’s something that the Democrats or Republicans can’t give to us right now or they’re not willing to help us out with.

    So something is growing not just in the UAW, not just in the Teamsters, but across the labor movement and the unorganized in this country that we’ve had quite enough. And it’s getting to a point, I think, that working people, because we work with each other every day, we don’t always have the same political beliefs, we don’t all have the same type of lives, but we somehow find a way to go to work every day with each other and not be at each other’s necks. Because if my life, if I’m struggling, the guy next to me is probably struggling just as hard. So the talking heads on the traditional mainstream media can tell you the economy’s doing better, but milk is still out of control. Gas is too high. I spend 60 hours a week in a factory. I don’t get to see my kids.

    And the guy next to me who’s a Trump supporter, he don’t get to see his kids. And the guy next to me who is a SUNY Muslim, he don’t get to see his kids. Our lives suck equally. So we are starting to band together to say, “Enough is enough. We’re not waiting for anybody to come save us. We’re going to have to do it ourselves.” And right now, what we are able to accomplish in the standup strike is tangible. You can see that, your paycheck shows you that. So that is what that we were able to tap into, and it’s something that we need to foster and to educate and just try to organize more because if it’s making our lives better, it’ll make your lives better wherever you’re at.

    Teddy Ostrow:

    I think that’s such a good point. You’re talking about this sort of synergy that, to Brandon’s point, was in a very short period of time, sort of harnessed by the union, came through the membership. And I just wanted to say my experience as a reporter reporting on the strike in Michigan, in Ohio, and when I saw you, Dan in New York, everyone was telling me as if they were totally media prepped, the exact same thing, saying what you’re saying, saying, “Look, we need better wages. We need to get rid of this temp issue. We need to eliminate the tiers.” They were saying the whole nine yards, there was unity. And what I’ve heard from observers of the 2018 GM strike when I was not reporting on the sector, was that it wasn’t necessarily clear to workers and to the media what people were fighting for. And that’s different this time around.

    Now, there’s a lot we can say about 2023, but I do think this is a good segue to talk about 2024, and maybe even further than that, we can talk about 2028 maybe. But first, I just want to hear, tell us now about the campaigns that the UAW launched late last year. 13 non-union automakers, as I understand, 150,000 workers invited by the union basically to organize all at once. I just saw that 30% of workers at a Mercedes plant in Alabama, in the south of all places, importantly, have signed union cards. This is a really serious wager. I think the UAW made a really serious wager going out on strike last year, trusting the workers, and it seems they’re doing the same here.

    They’re making that bet again, except for the non-union sector. We’ve seen organizing campaigns in the past decade at Volkswagen, Nissan, Tesla even, and they’ve either failed or never really materialized to anything very far. So first, can you tell us about that strategy that we’re seeing now for 2024 and beyond? But then help us understand what’s different this time around. What are you hearing from current members and also prospective members?

    Brandon Mancia:

    Yeah, so the first thing to know is that the UAW hasn’t won a wall to wall organizing drive at a major auto company in this country since before Dan and I were born. And we’re the two youngest members of the executive board. But for union not to win at one of these companies for decades is shameful. And yes, there has been an economic transformation in this country since then. Yes, the country and its leadership has become more anti-union in that period of time. But a lot of that has to do with us, too. We’ve been disorganized, we haven’t been focused, we’ve been concessionary. And why would folks join a union that leads to concessionary bargaining in tears? That was the big narrative and all these organizing drives that I would ultimately lose.

    It’s hard enough to win an organizing drive when you’ve got a boss and politicians, especially in the south, that are pouring a ton of money into beating you back. It’s even harder when the union itself is not in a position to actually stand up for workers and show you that it’s actually worth joining a union like the UAW. So when Shawn and the team took office, it was very clear that we were not going to be able to successfully organize if we didn’t win the standup strike and reach record contracts because what good would it be for? So by ending wage tiers, getting a 25% raise, improving retirement security, securing a path to adjust transition as we go to electric vehicle work, all this stuff was essential to be able to set up ourselves to launch organizing drives and it’s playing out in this way. We did the contract and now it’s organizing, right?

    But I got to be honest with you, that’s not actually how it’s happening. What happened was in the middle of the standup strike, seeing how much we were fighting, seeing the gains we were winning, auto workers across these plants across the country started organizing on their own. They were looking for expired cards, UAW cards they could find on the internet and filling those out thinking that that’s what it would take to join a union. The enthusiasm was there. The self-organizing was already happening. And so right now, honestly, what we’re doing is just helping workers that want to inform a union with their union. That’s what we’re doing, we’re supporting workers. So we’ve launched this ambitious campaign to organize all of the companies, but it’s because the traditional model of slowly, secretly building your union committee and getting to the point of winning an election, it’s just not going to work.

    Because right now, the moment to strike is right now, we got to be able to organize and win right now. And the companies know that, which is why they’ve matched the wages that we were able to win in the contract campaign for the big three workers because they’re trying to preempt all of this, right? They want to avoid unionization because if they can match 25% or at very least 11% for year one in raises, that means they got a lot more to give. And they know that if we successfully organize, we’re going to have to actually win even better record contracts at the non-Union facilities right now. So this is the moment. It’s not just the auto sector. It’s workers across the country from higher ed to gaming to different office workers and other manufacturing sectors. They’re all reaching out to the UAW right now because they want to organize. And this is the moment right now that we have to organize the working class, especially in places like the South where there’s so much work to do.

    Daniel Vicente:

    Yeah, like I said earlier, the standup strike seems to have tapped into a general feeling across this country of just the system that we live in is not fair. The system’s not set up to provide you a lifestyle or a pathway into a lifestyle that was enjoyed by our grandparents and our parents. And was an expectation for generations that if you work hard and you buckle down, you graduate high school, you don’t have to go and get a degree, you can work in a factory or you could get a blue collar job and you can buy a house and you can have a car, two cars, you can take care and build a family. And those pathways, particularly since the economic recession, particularly for auto workers, were not available. They were just not available. And what’s different this time, as Brandon was explaining, was the last time it was the UAW going out and being like, “Hey, join us. Look at us. Look how great we are. Look at our very storied history,” which is storied and it is very important.

    But if you’re some worker in a Volkswagen plant down south, what do you care what happened in 1932 or a sit down strike? What does that mean to you? It doesn’t mean anything. Tangible things, money, wages, healthcare, working conditions, these mean something to you. And the other part of it too, is this time going around, it isn’t, “Look at us, look at us. We’re so great.” It’s people saw what we were doing, fighting for our people, trying to make their lives better. And we’re saying to them, “Look how much the people around you are struggling. Look how much you’re struggling.” Because like I said, we’re rank and filers. I sat at the kitchen table and cried with my wife because I didn’t know how I was going to pay bills.

    I didn’t have the heart to tell my kids sometimes, “I don’t know how I’m going to get you into this field hockey league or something. That stuff’s expensive. And in order to get that equipment, I’m going to have to pull mad overtime hours, so I’m not going to see you.” These are real things that we live through. And then you look at what the CEOs and the bosses are making, it’s astronomically… It’s not even close to your life. It’s not close to your life. And the other part, during the whole standup strike too, in the regions particularly, we work in the plants, we know these people. We know the middle level, middle management types. A lot of them dudes are cool, and a lot of them get mistreated, too. And they would be coming to us on the side and saying, “Keep doing what you’re doing. Keep doing what you’re doing.” Because these companies mistreat not just their blue collar workers, but their middle management types, too. They mistreat them, they lean on them. We see it every day.

    And Teddy, you’re right, it is a wager, it’s a gamble really, because resources are going into this and money’s being spent. But the main difference with this new executive board with Shawn Fain is this money doesn’t exist to propel the institution of the UAW. This money exists. The dues that go in, people say all the time, “Oh, well, the unions just want your dues.” Dues money go into the union so that we can organize the working class. That’s why dues money go in, and we are using that money to try to organize working Americans. We don’t care who you vote for, we don’t care your religious backgrounds, we don’t care what kind of lifestyle you live, we don’t care your sexual orientation, none of that matters.

    What matters on a line, what matters if you’re a nurse, and wherever you work, can you do the job? Do you make my life easier being next to me, or do you make it harder? Because if you can do the job, I got you, bro. We’re going to have each other’s backs out there because we’re just trying to get through this shift. And that’s what most Americans, that’s their day-to-days. That’s what we know. And so this drive isn’t about, oh, we’re going to come in and we’re going to lead you and we’re going to build this new incident. No, we’re going to give you the tools to elect your own people. You run your own shop. You tell us what you need from us, and we’ll get you the resources and open the doors to try to fight and make your lives better.

    And if you want to come on and be a part of this team, we’re so proud that you want to come on. We’re so proud for you taking them steps. And once you’re in here, once you sign these cards, we got your back for life. We call each brothers and sisters for a reason, because we spend more time with each other than with our families. And so if somebody’s coming at you, they’re coming at me. And it’s just not something that this new UAW is about. We are tired of being pushed over and rolled over. We do have power, but we only have power when we act collectively. And the more people that are organized across all sectors, the more power we will have in this country to actually force institutional change to how the society is run. Because right now, it’s not fair, it’s not equitable, and people are falling into despair.

    And I think we’re seeing that across the United States. People don’t see legitimate pathways forward anymore through the traditional political paths. And so they’re turned into crazies. The labor movement has an answer for that. We fight to get paid so that we can live stable middle class lives. Because when people are stable and they have lives where they can see their families and live… Because we’re not lazy. We want to work, but we just don’t want to have to live there. When we have pathways to build a family so we don’t have to sweat it all the time so our kids can be safe, our spouses can be safe, taken care of, you won’t see these radicals popping up, because who wants to be a radical? People are just trying to live.

    Teddy Ostrow:

    You guys have sort of spoken to this already. You’ve hinted at it, and that’s the UAW’s broader vision, I think, for the labor movement. And that’s a part of what I think we are trying to also get at not just 2024, but also specifically concretely beyond that, 2028, which was of course, mayday 2028 is now the new expiration of the big three contracts. And Shawn Fain, the UAW leadership has explicitly called on other unions to come out and set their contract expirations on that date. Of course, there’s a symbolism to mayday the importance of the haymarket affair, but also what this means is potentially setting up the conditions for a general strike of some sort. Can you speak to that specific contractual change, that vision, but more broadly, the vision that the UAW has going forward for the broader labor movement, for the working class.

    Brandon Mancia:

    So I think we want to build a labor movement that is fighting together, and the call for lining up contracts, so they expire on mayday of ’28 is exactly that, to give everyone the opportunity to plan ahead, look at what you got right now, get things in order so that we have a target that is in common for everybody. So we’re doing the work of internally within our locals, outside of the big three, also lining up contracts in the different sectors, but also outreach and talking to different unions, different national and international unions. Because imagine how powerful a strike and the kinds of political demands we could have of this country if auto workers and teachers and nurses and all kinds of different kinds of workers are on strike or threatening to strike at the same time.

    That’s the idea. We don’t do enough of that in this country because in the labor room and in this country, we’re all segmented, we’re all doing different things. And another great thing that happened last year is that we were on strike, the writers were on strike, the screen actors were on strike, UPS had a contract campaign that really inspired and set the model for everyone, I think didn’t ultimately go on strike, but there was just a lot of energy. And if you found yourself in a certain city or town, you might have some other union also on strike and out on the picket line, and we could link up. So there were so many times where actors were coming to UAW picket lines and UAW workers were going out to other picket lines, and we were visiting each other and talking to each other, and that was incredible. That’s the kind of energy that we want in the labor movement.

    And I think the 2028 plan, the vision there is what if we actually coordinated for that? What if we actually intentionally planned around a target date like that so that we all have a deadline to look forward to and are organizing for? And organizing is something you’re in for the long haul. So with all these auto contracts, so sorry, auto organizing drives we have going on right now, we’re going to be fighting for years there to win what those workers deserve. So I think by the time we get to the table, again with the big three, Shawn has said, “We don’t want it to be just the big three. We want to be the big six, the big seven, the big eight. Whatever it is, we want to be able to come to the table with a lot more leverage.”

    Just speaking for the auto sector, there’s some things we didn’t win in this contract campaign. We ended waged tears and got COLA back and got a big raise, and it made a lot of strides for just transition and ending temp abuse. But we didn’t get pensions back for everybody. We didn’t get post-retirement healthcare back for everybody. Those things are the product of not because we didn’t strike hard enough or whatever. It was because we don’t have the density right now in the auto sector to have big transformative demands. We won those things when we were 80, 90% of the auto sector. We’re not that anymore. We’re around 40% maybe. So much of the sector is non-union and a lot of those things, our politicians have failed us. They’ve left retirees behind, they’ve left people sick. And without health insurance where Medicaid and Medicare aren’t enough, that’s not on unions.

    And that’s not just a company issue. That’s a political crisis in this country that we don’t take care of our people when they’re in need. So we need to be building all of this worker power through the labor movement to make these demands of our politicians too, and not just our company. So I think all of that is behind the idea of building a broader labor movement. And 2028 is the date we float it out there for people.

    Mel Buer:

    I think that’s a really important thing to note. I live in Los Angeles, and a lot of my labor coverage from the summer was really taking the time to situate myself in the multiple strikes that had upended the city. The city lost billions of dollars in revenue because workers took their power and walked out. And they won record contracts as a result of that, right? The writers got a great contract, SAG got a great contract. Workers with Unite here are continuing to push the tourism industry to be paid fairly at the hotels that they work at. And the reporting that I did last summer, I did an article on the sort of intersolidarity that was happening where individuals who were maybe recently activated by hitting a picket line for the first time in their careers, especially younger workers, got a chance to really start to understand what that kind of solidarity looks like outside of their own shops and their writer’s rooms and whatever else.

    And I think it’s really important, the points that you’re bringing up, Brandon, about needing to continue to broaden that sort of outlook, right? National solidarity across unions. Because you do see that when you have major labor actions like the standup strikes, like the teacher strikes of the years past, they can bring an entire sector to its knees. And that is a really powerful thing to be a part of that, and to understand that you do have that political power. Being able to see these calls for general strikes that usually just kind of are thrown out into the internet and people say they want to do this deal, but don’t really understand how to start the actual organizing of something of that nature, to see that become part of UAW policy that this is something that we are wanting to prime ourselves for if we need or should use it, is refreshing to see.

    And I think it’s also really important to tie this into the sort of international solidarity that you’re also beginning to talk about. And I think this might be a good segue into conversations about international solidarity, especially as it relates to the Israel-Palestine conflict and the occupation of Palestine by Israel. The UAW has come out as one of the largest, if not the largest national unions to support a ceasefire in Palestine. Something that anti-war labor activists have welcomed, even as a lot of US unions have remained largely silent on the issue. I think it’s important to note for our listeners that the UAW has through their public positions, heated the call of Palestinian labor unions and displaying international solidarity with workers that are currently trapped under bombardment in Gaza.

    And have also joined the, what, a hundred plus international unions and other progressive or activist organizations that have called for a ceasefire in the region. Why do you think it is an important piece of this, that the union takes such a strong position in calling for an end to violence in this conflict? And how do you think that sits within the broader sort of conversation we’re having about international solidarity and what US labor can do to contribute to that building of that solidarity?

    Daniel Vicente:

    Yeah, so for me personally, I mean, it hits really close to home for multiple reasons. So I’m married to a Palestinian from the West Bank who currently is visiting family over in Jordan, and two of her brothers that do still currently live in the West Bank, were able to get over so they’re safe. But the conflict in Gaza is not contained currently just to Gaza. There are raids constantly in the West Bank right now. There is armed conflict happening in the West Bank that’s not being covered as much. But on top of that, I’m also a Marine Corps veteran of the Iraq War and the air campaign against Libya, and I’ve had questions for years. I’m proud of my service, proud to serve with my guys. But for years afterwards, it digs into your brain like, what the hell? Or excuse me, what was that about? What was the point of that? Did we achieve US foreign policy objectives? Did we make the world a safer place? Did we do any of that?

    And what I constantly come back to is, no. No, after 9/11, my opinion, we wanted revenge. We wanted revenge for a heinous terrorist attack against our country, which is on a human level, understandable. And for my purposes, I don’t speak for the entirety of the UAW, but for me as a human and as an American, I just want to make clear that I believe that we should and ought to remain allies with the state of Israel, right? I believe they have a right to exist. I believe they have a right to defend themselves from terrorist actions. But if we are truly their allies and their friends, your real friends don’t tell you what you want to hear when you want to hear it. They tell you what you need to hear, when you need to hear it.

    And we need to be telling our Israeli partners, our officials, our elected officials, need to be telling them, “You are doing exactly what we did after 9/11. We defeated Al-Qaeda in Iraq, and we laid the groundwork for ISIS to come to fruition. You are going to make it worse.” In the campaign that they are carrying out in Gaza currently, it is not a reasonable, it is not a well-thought out military campaign. It is not structured to find the Hamas terrorists that carried out the October 7th attacks. They are, in my opinion, carrying out collective action against an entire people because they want revenge. And they have officials in that country straight up telling in public, “We just want them to be repopulated somewhere else. We want them all to immigrate to Egypt or put them in Jordan and put them in Lebanon.”

    That is to me, my understanding of the Geneva Convention, my understanding of genocide. It checks all the boxes. It checks all the boxes. And there’s a narrative particularly on the right, that the only people upset by this outrageous campaign in Gaza are coastal, highly educated elites. And that’s not true. It’s simply not true. Regular Americans, middle of the country Americans are seeing, you can’t hide what’s happening. You’re seeing what’s happening. You are decimating entire areas, populated areas with human beings to kill one guy. It’s not acceptable. The other people and just being real saying, “Oh, well, the UAW signed a ceasefire agreement.” That doesn’t change anything. It’s not going to stop the bomb. You’re absolutely right. It’s not going to stop Benjamin Netanyahu from ordering the IDF to drop bombs, but we have to start somewhere.

    The UAW has had a long history in our past of supporting civil and human rights issues around the world because it was morally the right thing to do. It was morally just clearly right to do. It was right to oppose apartheid South Africa. It was right to speak out against the Vietnam War. And this is morally the right thing to do, and it’s a strange place for us to be because just frankly, we represent weapons manufacturers. And I just want to say it on here, the UAW stands for and believes in a robust military industry for the purposes of legitimate defense of the United States and her allies. For the legitimate defense and support of her allies.

    What’s happening right now in Gaza with the Israeli government, not the Jewish people, what the Israeli government is authorizing to happen to Palestinians is abhorrent. It’s a war crime, and it needs to be called out on every level. Every union should be calling this out. Every civil organization and every elected government officials should be calling this out because the United States should not support this. We’re the only country in the world that is supporting the nation state of Israel in this attack against these unarmed people. And it has to stop.

    Brandon Mancia:

    Yeah, no, I can just add to that. I think if the labor movement is going to have its role right now, which is I think the UAW is a part of building that as the conscious of this country, it’s going to have to speak out on these kinds of wars and acts of genocide. And I think the labor movement for too long has been silent or ignorant or intentionally ignorant on these issues. And it’s just straight up sided with Israel. And there’s a long documented history of that connection between the labor movement and the state of Israel. And I think it’s up to the point now where, like Dan said, you just can’t hide what’s happening anymore. You have to see it for what it is, and you have to call it out. So I commend UE and UFCW Local 3000 for publicly mobilizing this letter, this call for ceasefire within the labor movement.

    And so I don’t think UAW needs to get all the credit for labor’s turn on this. In fact, we are really late to it. But as part of this movement that is engaging the membership, creating a democratic union, a union that stands in solidarity with not just working people in this country, but poor and oppressed people all over the world, this was the right thing to do. And we’re very happy to see that. I think following our call for ceasefire, so many other unions, especially large unions, not just local unions or individual shops, have also followed the call. 1199’s statement was amazing in terms of linking the struggle for healthcare workers in this country to the bombing of hospitals and healthcare workers in Gaza.

    So there’s so many connections. Think of all the journalists that have been killed. Those are workers, humanitarian workers. The violence has to end, and the labor movement is good at negotiating agreements. That’s the path here. It’s peace so that you can negotiate lasting peace and justice for all people, not more warfare.

    Daniel Vicente:

    If the conflict expands from Gaza to Lebanon, then to, who knows, if the Iranians are already pushing the limits with the Yemeni, the Houthis movement, and Yemen, if the conflict expands, and why this is important to us, blue collar working people, it’ll be our children, us and our kids that have to go fight that conflict. It will not be the sons and daughters of bankers or senators. We have seen this, I mean, we’ve seen this. We know this. This is not just something new. It’ll be us that have to do this, blue collar people. And for our purposes, we do not want to see another conflict blow out of control where we’re having to send American sons and daughters overseas to a conflict that does not make us a safer nation. It does not meet or achieve US strategic goals in the world of making us a safer or adjuster world. It makes it worse, and that’s why it’s important for labor to speak on it because we’re the grunts.

    Mel Buer:

    I think it’s important to kind of circle back around a little bit, kind of discuss a little bit of what might seem to some outsiders, some of our audience who hear that the UAW represents members who are directly involved in weapons manufacturing or are working for one of the, what, five manufacturers in this country who supply the vast majority of arms to Israel. It seems like an irreconcilable contradiction that there are members of UAW, but the wider labor movement who are anti-war, but also have to contend with the fact that there’s a non-insignificant number of people who are benefiting economically as members of the working class in shops that are manufacturing weapons, weapons of war, being a part of the military industrial complex as it’s called.

    So I think maybe if we took some time to kind of untangle this for our listeners, Jeff Shirkey had a great analysis in Jewish currents last month where he notes that one of the UAW’s big victories in the negotiations with the big three was a commitment towards just transition within EV plants. And he kind of makes the case that there have been conversations in past generations with the UAW that there is such an idea as sort of just transition away from weapons of war, for example, or what do they call it, conversion initiatives. And so I’m wondering if that’s kind of part of some of the thoughts that you’re having is you’re thinking about ways to better serve your membership.

    But also potentially maybe begin the conversation of is there a sort of way that we can kind of divest ourselves from the military industrial complex and move towards this sort of peacetime economy economic items that by all intents and purposes, may actually be a better job for individuals, a longer lasting job, one that has better benefits or something of that nature. I guess really it’s kind of a roundabout way of let’s have this conversation and see what we can pull out of this for our listeners so they get a better understanding of what’s going on within organizing in the UAW. And if this is part of the, how do you grapple with this, I guess.

    Daniel Vicente:

    So our historic president, Walter Reuther, before the treaty of what was called the Treaty of Detroit, he had a broader vision for what the labor movement could be. And that labor should be at the table making decisions for investments in companies, but also should be at the table for what society should look like overall. But you’re right, it’s a very strange place to be when you represent weapons manufacturers. That’s their livelihoods, but you’re also calling for a ceasefire. We have a lot of work to do to educate our membership as to why it’s important to pay attention to where our products end up.

    Many of you would know when ISIS just popped onto the scene from what it seemed to us in 2013, ’14, they were all driving Toyotas. I guarantee a Toyota did not want their products associated with that. We have a responsibility to track where our products are used and for what purposes. We need to start looking collectively, not just in the UAW, but across all unions and across industry in general as to what do we want this society, what are our priorities as a country, as a people? And we have to have these hard conversations. Transitioning the military industrial complex into a peace time thing, that’s decades of work, but that’s again, labor is going to have to be at the table with not just other labor unionists with politicians.

    And we spoke a little bit about what a general strike, if we could legitimately start laying the groundwork as working class Americans for a general strike, we could start to legitimately influence politicians to change drastically the stances they take when they go back to the capitol, when they go to the hill and represent us. It’s just we have been conditioned for so long in this country to believe that we can’t change anything. Everything is the way it is. And right now, like I said, regular people care first about tangible things. If you can start to get them wins to make their lives better, you can start to branch out and explain to them the broader system and how unfair it is.

    And not just in our society, but how we treat the world, our global policies, how we interact globally with the rest of the world, these things need to change. And it’s a hard thing to hear for some Americans, because we’ve been brought up and told, we’re the best country in the world and we’re always this noble, just nation, just the best people. And we could, we can be the best. We could be this nation of progressive forward-thinking, trying to make the world a better place. But facts would suggest that’s not how we have acted, not in my lifetime.

    So we have to look at in the mirror, see and acknowledge that because it’s like if you have a drinking problem or drug problem, if you don’t acknowledge it first, you’re not going to fix it. We don’t always act equitably or fairly. We did terrible things across the world. The military industrial complex pushed us to do terrible things in Iraq and Afghanistan. We don’t have to continue down that road. Is there a way to transition armament factories into different types of products? Sure, but that’s going to take more than just the UAW. That’s going to take all of us collectively saying enough is enough.

    Brandon Mancia:

    Also, I’ll add to that by basically saying briefly that the main difference, and I know the Jeff Shirkey piece you’re pointing to, which I think is a brilliant kind of history of that idea. The one thing that’s missing is that the transition to EV was forced upon us. The companies wanted to force the EV transition on us so they can get rid of the UAW, get rid of unions. Shawn called it the race to the bottom so that all workers went down with the transition to the green economy. The idea of the just transition in the EV sector was, no, we need to transition to a green economy to make a sustainable planet, but you’re not going to sacrifice workers and working communities and families in that process.

    Right now, there is no anti-war capitalism that exists that is pushing an unjust transition to an anti-war economy. So what labor has to do in this moment, and this war is a perfect kind of example of what needs to happen, we need to have a conversation about what kind of movement we’re building. Is it an anti-war movement? Is it a movement for peace? Is it a movement for a different way for the US to act in the world? These are all the questions that the labor movement used to ask of itself, and it doesn’t anymore. So I think that’s a much bigger question, but it’s not going to come because the companies are doing it. It’s going to come because we as a movement are talking about it. So we’re discussing it as a union, and I think that’s at this moment what we’re building towards. But yeah, I think that aspect is really important to remember here.

    Daniel Vicente:

    If I may too, because I’ve seen some people say, “Well, the ceasefire letter was a nice first start, but why don’t you take more tangible step? Why don’t you shut down those factories?” And what people have to remember is we have collective bargaining agreements with these companies, which, so if we were to just walk everybody out, which our membership would not be required to do because an active contract, it would be a wild catch strike, and those people could all be fired immediately. They could lose their livelihoods. And I don’t think anybody listening to that would suggest that anyone should just walk out and lose their livelihood and how they pay their bills.

    But we do need to start laying the groundwork and thinking and discussing how do we at the next bargaining session for these contracts, how do we get language in there to give us pathways so that we can apply more pressure? How do we take more ownership of how these products are used? These are the conversations we need to start having now. So just to walk everybody out or to blockade the front gate, that wouldn’t do nothing for a rank and filer except put your job at risk. And if you want to lose momentum, if you want to lose people, and absolutely never have them listen to anything you say, go ahead and threaten their livelihoods and their jobs. I just want to put that out there.

    Mel Buer:

    Thank you. I just wanted to say thanks for taking the time before Teddy kind of moves us into our probably last bit of conversation. But thank you for taking the time to just have an honest chat about this, and to start to untangle some of the really thorny subjects that kind of come up when we talk about this kind of activism, when we talk about Labor’s role in these kind of movements. So thank you, and I really appreciate that we could have a bit of this conversation. So I’ll pass it off to Teddy, but I just wanted to make that comment and I think our listeners will also appreciate what’s been said so far.

    Teddy Ostrow:

    Yeah, I totally agree with that. But we would be remiss if we didn’t ask a question that was at least indirectly related to the 2024 election. Sorry, everybody, if you’re like me and don’t like to talk about it. Just kidding, sort of. A lot of people, or a lot of media has focused on the UAW President Shawn Fain having harsh words for both Donald Trump and Joe Biden for different and similar reasons. And Fain made a statement that I think points to the newly class struggle orientation of the union that the UAW is dedicated to fighting the billionaire class, which includes people like Donald Trump. That we can’t keep electing billionaires, millionaires whose interests are opposite those of the working class.

    And we’ve been talking about the UAW representing the working class, the workers of the union, but also the broader working class. And all of this comes even as the president of the Teamsters, Sean O’Brien has met with Trump, which caused an uproar among some members and certainly among the labor left. But on the “other side”, we’ve also seen the UAW leadership indicate that it is not going to hand out cheap endorsements to Democrats like Biden, who has done frankly very little to ensure auto workers and other workers have a bright unionized future.

    And this is pretty atypical for unions who I think have been somewhat of lapdogs for Democrats for a long time. So I wanted to ask you guys, how do you think the UAW or unions in general should be engaging with electoral politics or with politics more broadly, more expansively? And also, how are you guys handling or would like to handle the admittedly sticky, uncomfortable political tensions that exist within the union within many unions, which in the electoral realm at least, includes substantial proportion of the membership expressing support for a billionaire that is Trump?

    Brandon Mancia:

    Yeah, so I can start. Basically, the truth is a lot of our members did vote for Donald Trump in the two elections in which he ran. And part of having a democratic union is working through that, talking about that. And there was a reason why Democrats had not been coming to the table for working people for decades. And I think that that’s the story we’ve seen in state, after state in this country is working people, middle class people turning to the Republicans because of the betrayal of the Democratic Party. But I do want to be clear that the UAW is not to endorse Donald Trump. Shawn Fain has said as much publicly that every fiber of our unions being is going to be fighting the billionaire class that enriches people like Donald Trump.

    Joe Biden, for all his faults, came to the picket line right after we took a hard stance of him about how he had dashed out these subsidies for the EV transition. He showed up to the picket line. Julie Sue and the Department of Labor has been working with the UAW through the negotiations to work on the just transition. And what did Donald Trump do? Donald Trump went to visit a non-union auto plant, a parts plant in Michigan when he could have easily come to a UW picket line and made his case for members who voted for him, members who didn’t vote for him, and have student solidarity with our strike. He bashed the strike.

    So of course, there’s going to be members who support Trump or are disappointed with Biden, but the truth is we’re not going to be a union that’s going to stand by a candidate like Trump who as president, tries to basically install a dictatorship and keep himself as president and was no friend of working people. He wanted to outsource every job and for all his talk about manufacturing coming back to the US, manufacturing kept going on in decline during his presidency. There was no growth in manufacturing jobs, good middle class jobs, good union jobs. So that definitely has to be said.

    Daniel Vicente:

    I’m so glad that Brandon’s here to give the more reasonable approach. So I’ll give you the more factory approach. F Donald Trump. He’s an orange clown. He has no business being the president of the United States, and we have to oppose him organized labor. We have to oppose him with every fiber of our being. And you’re right, in my opinion, there are members… I’m not going to beat around the bush. There are certain elements of our membership that voted Donald Trump because of the white supremacy part of it. That’s just a part of it. That’s a very slim minority of them. The majority of the people that I think voted for Donald Trump is because they feel that they have been failed. So overwhelmingly failed by the traditional political establishment in this country, both Democrat and Republican.

    So they felt like, hey, I’ll give this guy a shot. What’s the worst that could happen? I’ll throw a grenade in a room and see what happens. Let’s just vote for chaos and see what happens If that man comes back as president, he is saying what he’s going to do, he’s laying it out. Labor unions are going to be under attack. The NLRB is going to be completely changed. We are going to face massive… And the UAW particularly because he asked us straight up for an endorsement, he is going to come at us specifically. And listen, Joe Biden is not my first choice either. He’s 107 years old. But it is at this point, the choice comes down to do we believe, legitimately as Americans and the Democratic principles that this country was founded on, that life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, do we still believe that a representative democratic institution is how we should run our country? Or do we think that we should hand it over to right wing nutbags who want to create some sort of Italian fascist state or something?

    It’s not acceptable. We cannot allow it to happen and we absolutely have to oppose him and we have to call him out for what he is. The man is a man, no offense, Brandon, but he’s a Manhattanite millionaire who’s never struggled a day in his life. The dude doesn’t know your struggle. The dude has never had to work a factory. The dude, as much as I disagreed with John McCain, the dude got five deferments from Vietnam and then trashed a Vietnam veteran, which I will never forgive. I personally will never forgive. The dude’s a clown. The dude is a clown and he’s playing you. And I would ask that every working person in this country try to look and look at what his policies did for you and your actual life, tangible things, didn’t make it better. Didn’t make it better. If you are a multinational conglomerate, certainly made your business better. But if you work, if you’re a working person, he attacked your lifestyle constantly in his time as president. And if he’s allowed to come back, he’s coming at you even harder. It’ll be Trump 2.0 this time when a vengeance.

    Brandon Mancia:

    I’m a proud New Yorker, and I disown Donald Trump.

    Daniel Vicente:

    God bless you.

    Mel Buer:

    I think we’re kind of getting to the place where we might be able to wind down this conversation a little bit. So I think just a sort of final thought here and a bit of an anecdote. I did reporting on the Kellogg’s picket line in 2021, and I spent a lot of time with my neighbors in Omaha, Nebraska who represent all sort of manners of the political spectrum. And the reality is no matter who you voted for and folks, we had lots of conversations on the line, you can kind of catch some of it in my previous reporting from years past. But without fail, especially in the Midwest, being able to sit down and talk politics on a picket line is kind of bread and butter. You know what I mean?

    And the reality is folks don’t really care about who you voted for because the common enemy is the boss who’s taking your pay out of your paycheck. And as long as you can trust the person you’re standing shoulder to shoulder with to suit up and show up at a picket line, to be able to stand together against this sort of injustices, this economic oppression that happens in this country, then there’s a way forward. And that’s kind of been my stance in terms of electoral politics in a long time since I’ve been covering the labor movements since I’m now. And I’ve been a member of the IWW for years, and I’m a member of the CWA News Guild now, and it’s the same thing.

    We have differing opinions about how we participate in politics, but the reality is we can affect our material conditions now. And how we choose to engage with electoral politics in this country is sort of everyone’s decision is their own. I guess it’s a little middle of the road I guess. I don’t know, but that would be kind of my thoughts about that. Before we wrap up though, is there anything that we maybe haven’t touched on or something that Daniel or Brandon that you are excited about that you want to let our listeners know to watch to be aware of as we move further into 2024? Any organizing or anything exciting that you want to share?

    Daniel Vicente:

    For my part of it and Region 9, which is Pennsylvania, jersey and central and western New York, we’re getting more organizing tips and calls than we can handle currently at the moment. We don’t have enough heads covering and it’s from all different sectors. And if there’s anything that is filling me with some sort of enthusiasm and hope for the upcoming year, it’s that what happened during the pandemic, the fault lines were exposed so blatantly for everybody that the system, the society we are in does not value us. It is not fair. It does not allow us, like I’ve said, pathways that were enjoyed by our previous generations we’re organized. People are organizing.

    And if you’re listening to this and you’re in an unorganized shop, you’re listening to this because you’re interested in the labor movement, you’re interested in these types of things, the people around you are that, too. They might just not know that this exists. Start having conversations, start talking to people. And I know how it is at work, you don’t love everybody. But always remember, what’s good for me over here is probably good for that guy, too. It’s probably good for this lady over here. And you spend so much time in these workplaces, and you talk to each other and you get to know each other, and you meet people with radically different opinions and ideas from you. And you start to feel for them. You start to know their kids’ names. You start to know their parents or their wives or spouse’s names.

    And if you get nothing else out of this, try to take this, try to remember that feeling when you see one of your friends at work, they get let go for some garbage reason, for some nothing. That’s why we get into unionism, because we don’t like seeing our people get messed with. And if you’re listening to this because you don’t like seeing your people get messed with, and the only way that you can fight back against those who have against us who have not is if you organize and you join a union. I don’t care if it’s the UAW, I don’t care if you form your own union, I don’t care. You join the team. So it’s whatever, organize, join a union because collectively, only collectively, those who have not can fight against those who have.

    Teddy Ostrow:

    You heard it first, Region 9 will be endorsing the love candidate, Marian Williamson. Just kidding. You can wrap up now. Sorry.

    Mel Buer:

    Thank you so much, guys for coming on today’s show to talk about UAW’s, exciting organizing and to have a really good, I think, conversation about some of the more complex things that we run into when we are talking about organizing in this day and age. And thank you, Teddy Ostrow for joining me as co-host for this special episode. God, I hope I can bring you back on. It’s been a joy working with you again. But that’s it for us here at The Real News Network podcast. Once again, I am your host, Mel Buer.

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  • The historic UAW strike of 2023 against the Big Three put a new face on one of the largest and oldest unions in the US. The UAW not only managed to face down the largest and most entrenched business interests in the auto sector—they did it with innovative strategy and a commitment to not only win concessions but build political power for a long-term struggle. And the union isn’t taking a break in 2024. Already, the UAW has thrown its weight behind support for a ceasefire in Gaza, and entered the fray of electoral politics by refusing a meeting with Trump. TRNN Reporter Mel Buer speaks with Teddy Ostrow, co-host of The Upsurge, along with Brandon Mancilla, director of UAW Region 9A, and Daniel Vicente, director of UAW Region 9, on the union’s recent victories and what we can expect in the year to come.

    Studio / Post-Production: David Hebden


    Transcript

    The following is a rushed transcript and may contain errors. A proofread version will be made available as soon as possible.

    Mel Buer:

    Welcome back, my friends to The Real News Network Podcast. I’m your host Mel Buer. I hope everyone had a wonderful holiday season and is finding these first weeks back to work more than tolerable. We’ve got an incredible season of The Real News Podcast planned for you this year with me at the helm, and I can’t wait to share some incredible conversations with you. Whether you’ve got our shows on while you’re making coffee in the morning, put our podcasts on during your commute to and from work, or give us a listen throughout the workday, The Real News Network is committed to bringing you ad-free independent journalism that you can count on. We care a lot about what we do and it’s through donations from dedicated listeners like you that we can keep on doing this work. Please consider becoming a monthly sustainer of The Real News Network by heading over to the realnews.com/donate.

    If you want to stay in touch and get updates about our work, then sign up for our free newsletter @therealnews.com/sign-up. As always, we appreciate your support in whatever form it takes. We’ve got a special episode to kick off the season today. As most of our listeners know, we’ve had the pleasure of publishing journalist and podcaster Teddy Ostrow’s incredible work for some time. His labor reporting has been integral to capturing a big piece of the picture of the US Labor Movement in recent years. And his podcast, The Upsurge, shed important light on such high profile labor actions as the 2023 UPS contract negotiations and the UAW’s 2023 standup strikes. The Upsurge has sadly ceased production, but episodes can be found on the realnews.com and over at In These Times. Given the content of today’s conversation, I’ve asked Teddy on to be my special guest co-host. Welcome, Teddy. Glad to see you back here at The Real News.

    Teddy Ostrow:

    Thanks for having me, Mel, and thank you for all those kind words. Now, the UAW had one heck of a year in 2023, and if all goes as planned, we’ll be saying the same thing at the start of 2025. As listeners probably know, in March last year, Shawn Fain and a slate of reformer candidates swept the union’s first one Member, one vote leadership elections. The group unite all workers for democracy. UAWD spearheaded the reform campaign and successfully ousted the business unionists that had run the union for nearly 80 years under the banner of the administration caucus.

    Then like clockwork, they wowed the world with one of the most successful contract campaigns in decades. They employed a novel strike strategy, what they called the standup strike, a nod to the GM sit downs that helped build the union in the 1930s. And in the end, workers from Ford General Motors and Stellantis won significant gains from the company, making up much of the ground lost to decades and decades of concessionary bargaining.

    Mel Buer:

    With workers around the country inspired by the newfound militancy of the UAW, the union leadership has now turned its sight onto organizing the non-union auto industry. Late last year, the union announced simultaneous campaigns at 13 automakers around the country, which, if successful, would bring 150,000 more workers into the union. Those campaigns and the union’s broader vision ahead is what we want to talk about with our guests. Today, we have Brandon Mancia, Director of UAW Region 9A, and Daniel Vicente, Director of UAW Region 9 on the show. Both are members of UAWD and were elected by members alongside Shawn Fain last year. Thanks for coming on the show, gentlemen.

    Brandon Mancia:

    Thank you for having us.

    Daniel Vicente:

    Yeah, thanks for having us. Nice to be here.

    Mel Buer:

    Right on. To kick things off in our conversation today, I thought it might be helpful to start by taking stock of the work that the UAW and its members have accomplished in 2023. I think that the union’s incredible work during the negotiations with the big three and the standup strikes is top of everyone’s mind when they think of recent UAW victories. So what were some of the big takeaways from last year? Any lessons learned from the organizing that was done?

    Brandon Mancia:

    I think Shawn Fain got elected at the end of March, so between his election, Dan’s election during that runoff and the rest of the slate that had gotten elected in December of the previous year, he had to hit the ground running, bringing in a team, making a plan for negotiations. And the very next day after he got sworn in as president, we had our bargaining convention. The convention where the delegates of the union elected throughout the membership would have to set the bargaining agenda for the big three contract campaign. So we had to get to work right away. There was no time to sit around and think things through. You had to go ahead and act immediately.

    And I think one of the most successful things that Shawn was able to pull off during those early months of his administration was to bring in some really talented, visionary strategic people onto staff, while also empower voices within the staff, within leadership, within the membership that had not gotten the opportunity to really go ahead and pull off something like this contract campaign. And I think that’s really important, right? Because this takes a lot of work and it takes unity and it takes a new direction, and Shawn really committed to that. But at the end of the day, a contract campaign like the one that we were able to launch against the big three was only going to be successful if the membership were at the heart of it and at the core of it.

    And you had to basically empower the membership to take the reins. And that’s what we did. We launched the contract campaign in which the expiration was, the deadline was a deadline, it was a real deadline. It was not a reference point. We would strike all three companies at once if necessary, if they did not bargain in good faith or they slow walked bargaining. And they would have to contend with our real ambitious demands, which honestly were just restoring a lot of things that were given away through concessionary bargaining. But that’s what the membership wanted. They wanted to fight. They wanted to have a sense of dignity and fight restored.

    Mel Buer:

    Dan, is there anything you’d like to add?

    Daniel Vicente:

    Yeah, Brandon’s absolutely right. Shawn Fain and the new executive board had to, in an insanely short amount of time, had to put together a campaign as quickly as possible to take on three of the largest corporations in the United States, some of the most important and historical companies in this country, and they were able to pull it off. But they were able to pull it off because of one guy. Shawn Fain will be the first one to tell you, he’s just a guy. He’s just one regular guy from Kokomo, Indiana. The reason we were able to be successful in our standup strike was because for the first time in living memory, the UAW leadership engaged our membership in a campaign to fight for what we believed was our rightful due, what was due to us. And that hasn’t happened in decades. Decades.

    The previous leadership is not a secret. A lot of them were sent to prison on corruption charges. Brandon and I come out of the reform movement and we ran against longstanding incumbents that were part of that administration caucus. And that caucus, like any one party system, had become stagnant and stuck in its ways. And it fostered an environment where you weren’t allowed to question or rock the boat or try to push for anything aggressive in bargaining. You were just supposed to get the contract signed, shut up, and stay in your place. And that’s really how the union ran itself. And I mean, as new directors on the board, we’ve run into a lot of it. We have great people on our staffs, it’s just they’ve never been empowered to take aggressive bargaining stances. So it’s a completely new environment for a lot of our staff members.

    And frankly, a lot of them are really, really engaged now and are pumped up, and wanted it to be this way for a long time. If anything good came out of the corruption, which all those dudes, F those dudes that went to prison, all of them. But if anything good came out of it, it was that it laid bare the completely unacceptable situation that was able to grow inside of the UAW. And it urged people like Brandon, myself and a bunch of other reform people to get involved, run for local offices, push for one member, one vote. And when members, when citizens people and whatever organization get involved, we can make legitimate tangible changes to the systems that exist. The systems were built by people that anticipated engagement.

    And when we don’t engage, when we think we can’t change anything and everything’s a done deal and nothing’s ever going to change, then you’re right, nothing will change. When we get involved, when we engage ourselves in our institutions, our unions, what-have-you, we can change things. And the standup strike was successful because our people were ready to fight. They just needed somebody to show them how to do it, and Shawn Fain is that dude.

    Mel Buer:

    Before we move on to, because I do want to talk about the momentum that has been built by this reform movement and what 2024 and beyond looks like, Teddy’s going to bring up some great questions, but the one point that I want to make is I’m kind of reminded of Jane McAlevey’s book where she talks about unions as an institution, a democratic institution. And when the democratic institution is failing, in some way, the way to try and affect change is really to get involved and to see if you can kind of push the needle in the other direction.

    And it’s really cool to be a member of the labor movement and seeing what the reform movement has done, and to see such an incredible victory right out of the gate. It proves the point that if you have engaged members who are willing and able to put in some work and are willing and able to really push for reform in an institution like the UAW, you can see some really incredible material gains come out of it, right? It’s really fantastic to see that. Brandon?

    Brandon Mancia:

    We’ve never done a contract campaign before, at least not since the years of Walter Reuther. I mean, and what that means is it’s some very basic stuff. It’s like getting informed of what the contract demands are, right? Holding communication and transparent Facebook lives in which we get updates on what negotiations, how they’re going, right? It’s holding rallies, it’s wearing red shirts on Wednesday, it’s wearing pins, having informational meetings at the shop level, right? Not just waiting for someone to tell you what to do, but actively taking direct action with each other. At the regions, that’s a lot of the work we had to do, right? You can’t just have everything done by Detroit. You got to do it at the shop level, at the local level, too.

    And through that, I think so many members were able to get engaged, whether it was just putting on Facebook Live once a week to hear what Shawn had to say or whether it was going to a rally or going to a local meeting or getting informed about strike strategy and that kind of stuff. It was a whole movement. I think that was unleashed simply because the members were trusted to understand the importance of their demands and how important this contract was going to be. It was going to be an existential fight. If we didn’t reverse a lot of these concessions and wins strong contracts and get cost of living back, what good was this union going to be for if we didn’t actually chart a future?

    So by the time the standup strike came, the deadline, members were bought in, they were ready to go to battle and hit the picket lines. And it took a membership, a leadership, a team around Shawn too, that understood where the leverage was in the industry, right? We’ve got wall-to-wall coverage at the big three at GM and Solanis. We know their pressure points, we know their money makers. We know what they hate seeing out in the media and what they would not want to have be publicly shamed about. And we went for it. And they knew that. A lot of folks asked, “Why didn’t you take everybody all at once?” That would’ve been awesome. But at the same time, building up that pressure week to week, keeping them on their toes, not knowing what was coming next, making the strike national, not just a few plants here and there in the Midwestern, the South, they weren’t ready. The companies weren’t ready and they had no choice but to concede.

    Daniel Vicente:

    For our purposes, with all of our contracts, we usually have the most leverage in the 11th hour right before the contracts set to expire because the company, up at that point, they’re following a playbook, but they don’t know, are you really going to do it? Are you not going to do it? So there is a crazy amount of leverage in keeping them off of their game because these are businesses, they’re doing multi-billion dollar conglomerates. Everything runs off of a plan. They make plans, long-term plans, short-term plans, that risk assessments, all that stuff. But if the standup strike had them so unbalanced, they couldn’t get a plan together. They were shipping product to other plants anticipating that we were going to take out transmission plants. And then we were laughing because we’re not taking out the transmission plans, we’re taking out this… They had no idea what to do.

    And our membership for so long was conditioned to believe that “blackout bargaining” was the standard, and that’s how you have to do it, which was for those that aren’t familiar, blackout bargaining is a type of bargaining where your leadership doesn’t communicate with you the shop floor rank and filer at all during negotiations. They just basically say, “Trust us, we have your best interest at heart.” And they go behind closed doors and they come out a month or two later and tell you, “This is the best we were going to get.” And Brandon and I have seen, I mean, we were shop rank and filer guys, so we saw what that was. What the results of that wasn’t was garbage. We end up with garbage increases in our wages. We pay more for healthcare, everything. Everything you can imagine. And what I think the standup strike tapped into was something broader than just the United Auto Workers.

    There is a feeling not just amongst one generation or the other, but just working Americans in general, that we went through the Occupy Wall Street, we had hope in Obama. There’s the Bernie Sanders. We’ve been waiting for a movement to come along or a political party to come along and be the new standard bearer of the working class. And it hasn’t happened, and it’s not going to happen frankly, from the two long-term parties we’ve had in this country where you can make tangible, actual changes to your actual life is in organized labor. Because you have a voice at the table over how much money you make, how much you pay in healthcare, how much time do you have to spend at work. You get to not dictate terms, but negotiate terms of your actual day-to-day life. And that’s something that the Democrats or Republicans can’t give to us right now or they’re not willing to help us out with.

    So something is growing not just in the UAW, not just in the Teamsters, but across the labor movement and the unorganized in this country that we’ve had quite enough. And it’s getting to a point, I think, that working people, because we work with each other every day, we don’t always have the same political beliefs, we don’t all have the same type of lives, but we somehow find a way to go to work every day with each other and not be at each other’s necks. Because if my life, if I’m struggling, the guy next to me is probably struggling just as hard. So the talking heads on the traditional mainstream media can tell you the economy’s doing better, but milk is still out of control. Gas is too high. I spend 60 hours a week in a factory. I don’t get to see my kids.

    And the guy next to me who’s a Trump supporter, he don’t get to see his kids. And the guy next to me who is a SUNY Muslim, he don’t get to see his kids. Our lives suck equally. So we are starting to band together to say, “Enough is enough. We’re not waiting for anybody to come save us. We’re going to have to do it ourselves.” And right now, what we are able to accomplish in the standup strike is tangible. You can see that, your paycheck shows you that. So that is what that we were able to tap into, and it’s something that we need to foster and to educate and just try to organize more because if it’s making our lives better, it’ll make your lives better wherever you’re at.

    Teddy Ostrow:

    I think that’s such a good point. You’re talking about this sort of synergy that, to Brandon’s point, was in a very short period of time, sort of harnessed by the union, came through the membership. And I just wanted to say my experience as a reporter reporting on the strike in Michigan, in Ohio, and when I saw you, Dan in New York, everyone was telling me as if they were totally media prepped, the exact same thing, saying what you’re saying, saying, “Look, we need better wages. We need to get rid of this temp issue. We need to eliminate the tiers.” They were saying the whole nine yards, there was unity. And what I’ve heard from observers of the 2018 GM strike when I was not reporting on the sector, was that it wasn’t necessarily clear to workers and to the media what people were fighting for. And that’s different this time around.

    Now, there’s a lot we can say about 2023, but I do think this is a good segue to talk about 2024, and maybe even further than that, we can talk about 2028 maybe. But first, I just want to hear, tell us now about the campaigns that the UAW launched late last year. 13 non-union automakers, as I understand, 150,000 workers invited by the union basically to organize all at once. I just saw that 30% of workers at a Mercedes plant in Alabama, in the south of all places, importantly, have signed union cards. This is a really serious wager. I think the UAW made a really serious wager going out on strike last year, trusting the workers, and it seems they’re doing the same here.

    They’re making that bet again, except for the non-union sector. We’ve seen organizing campaigns in the past decade at Volkswagen, Nissan, Tesla even, and they’ve either failed or never really materialized to anything very far. So first, can you tell us about that strategy that we’re seeing now for 2024 and beyond? But then help us understand what’s different this time around. What are you hearing from current members and also prospective members?

    Brandon Mancia:

    Yeah, so the first thing to know is that the UAW hasn’t won a wall to wall organizing drive at a major auto company in this country since before Dan and I were born. And we’re the two youngest members of the executive board. But for union not to win at one of these companies for decades is shameful. And yes, there has been an economic transformation in this country since then. Yes, the country and its leadership has become more anti-union in that period of time. But a lot of that has to do with us, too. We’ve been disorganized, we haven’t been focused, we’ve been concessionary. And why would folks join a union that leads to concessionary bargaining in tears? That was the big narrative and all these organizing drives that I would ultimately lose.

    It’s hard enough to win an organizing drive when you’ve got a boss and politicians, especially in the south, that are pouring a ton of money into beating you back. It’s even harder when the union itself is not in a position to actually stand up for workers and show you that it’s actually worth joining a union like the UAW. So when Shawn and the team took office, it was very clear that we were not going to be able to successfully organize if we didn’t win the standup strike and reach record contracts because what good would it be for? So by ending wage tiers, getting a 25% raise, improving retirement security, securing a path to adjust transition as we go to electric vehicle work, all this stuff was essential to be able to set up ourselves to launch organizing drives and it’s playing out in this way. We did the contract and now it’s organizing, right?

    But I got to be honest with you, that’s not actually how it’s happening. What happened was in the middle of the standup strike, seeing how much we were fighting, seeing the gains we were winning, auto workers across these plants across the country started organizing on their own. They were looking for expired cards, UAW cards they could find on the internet and filling those out thinking that that’s what it would take to join a union. The enthusiasm was there. The self-organizing was already happening. And so right now, honestly, what we’re doing is just helping workers that want to inform a union with their union. That’s what we’re doing, we’re supporting workers. So we’ve launched this ambitious campaign to organize all of the companies, but it’s because the traditional model of slowly, secretly building your union committee and getting to the point of winning an election, it’s just not going to work.

    Because right now, the moment to strike is right now, we got to be able to organize and win right now. And the companies know that, which is why they’ve matched the wages that we were able to win in the contract campaign for the big three workers because they’re trying to preempt all of this, right? They want to avoid unionization because if they can match 25% or at very least 11% for year one in raises, that means they got a lot more to give. And they know that if we successfully organize, we’re going to have to actually win even better record contracts at the non-Union facilities right now. So this is the moment. It’s not just the auto sector. It’s workers across the country from higher ed to gaming to different office workers and other manufacturing sectors. They’re all reaching out to the UAW right now because they want to organize. And this is the moment right now that we have to organize the working class, especially in places like the South where there’s so much work to do.

    Daniel Vicente:

    Yeah, like I said earlier, the standup strike seems to have tapped into a general feeling across this country of just the system that we live in is not fair. The system’s not set up to provide you a lifestyle or a pathway into a lifestyle that was enjoyed by our grandparents and our parents. And was an expectation for generations that if you work hard and you buckle down, you graduate high school, you don’t have to go and get a degree, you can work in a factory or you could get a blue collar job and you can buy a house and you can have a car, two cars, you can take care and build a family. And those pathways, particularly since the economic recession, particularly for auto workers, were not available. They were just not available. And what’s different this time, as Brandon was explaining, was the last time it was the UAW going out and being like, “Hey, join us. Look at us. Look how great we are. Look at our very storied history,” which is storied and it is very important.

    But if you’re some worker in a Volkswagen plant down south, what do you care what happened in 1932 or a sit down strike? What does that mean to you? It doesn’t mean anything. Tangible things, money, wages, healthcare, working conditions, these mean something to you. And the other part of it too, is this time going around, it isn’t, “Look at us, look at us. We’re so great.” It’s people saw what we were doing, fighting for our people, trying to make their lives better. And we’re saying to them, “Look how much the people around you are struggling. Look how much you’re struggling.” Because like I said, we’re rank and filers. I sat at the kitchen table and cried with my wife because I didn’t know how I was going to pay bills.

    I didn’t have the heart to tell my kids sometimes, “I don’t know how I’m going to get you into this field hockey league or something. That stuff’s expensive. And in order to get that equipment, I’m going to have to pull mad overtime hours, so I’m not going to see you.” These are real things that we live through. And then you look at what the CEOs and the bosses are making, it’s astronomically… It’s not even close to your life. It’s not close to your life. And the other part, during the whole standup strike too, in the regions particularly, we work in the plants, we know these people. We know the middle level, middle management types. A lot of them dudes are cool, and a lot of them get mistreated, too. And they would be coming to us on the side and saying, “Keep doing what you’re doing. Keep doing what you’re doing.” Because these companies mistreat not just their blue collar workers, but their middle management types, too. They mistreat them, they lean on them. We see it every day.

    And Teddy, you’re right, it is a wager, it’s a gamble really, because resources are going into this and money’s being spent. But the main difference with this new executive board with Shawn Fain is this money doesn’t exist to propel the institution of the UAW. This money exists. The dues that go in, people say all the time, “Oh, well, the unions just want your dues.” Dues money go into the union so that we can organize the working class. That’s why dues money go in, and we are using that money to try to organize working Americans. We don’t care who you vote for, we don’t care your religious backgrounds, we don’t care what kind of lifestyle you live, we don’t care your sexual orientation, none of that matters.

    What matters on a line, what matters if you’re a nurse, and wherever you work, can you do the job? Do you make my life easier being next to me, or do you make it harder? Because if you can do the job, I got you, bro. We’re going to have each other’s backs out there because we’re just trying to get through this shift. And that’s what most Americans, that’s their day-to-days. That’s what we know. And so this drive isn’t about, oh, we’re going to come in and we’re going to lead you and we’re going to build this new incident. No, we’re going to give you the tools to elect your own people. You run your own shop. You tell us what you need from us, and we’ll get you the resources and open the doors to try to fight and make your lives better.

    And if you want to come on and be a part of this team, we’re so proud that you want to come on. We’re so proud for you taking them steps. And once you’re in here, once you sign these cards, we got your back for life. We call each brothers and sisters for a reason, because we spend more time with each other than with our families. And so if somebody’s coming at you, they’re coming at me. And it’s just not something that this new UAW is about. We are tired of being pushed over and rolled over. We do have power, but we only have power when we act collectively. And the more people that are organized across all sectors, the more power we will have in this country to actually force institutional change to how the society is run. Because right now, it’s not fair, it’s not equitable, and people are falling into despair.

    And I think we’re seeing that across the United States. People don’t see legitimate pathways forward anymore through the traditional political paths. And so they’re turned into crazies. The labor movement has an answer for that. We fight to get paid so that we can live stable middle class lives. Because when people are stable and they have lives where they can see their families and live… Because we’re not lazy. We want to work, but we just don’t want to have to live there. When we have pathways to build a family so we don’t have to sweat it all the time so our kids can be safe, our spouses can be safe, taken care of, you won’t see these radicals popping up, because who wants to be a radical? People are just trying to live.

    Teddy Ostrow:

    You guys have sort of spoken to this already. You’ve hinted at it, and that’s the UAW’s broader vision, I think, for the labor movement. And that’s a part of what I think we are trying to also get at not just 2024, but also specifically concretely beyond that, 2028, which was of course, mayday 2028 is now the new expiration of the big three contracts. And Shawn Fain, the UAW leadership has explicitly called on other unions to come out and set their contract expirations on that date. Of course, there’s a symbolism to mayday the importance of the haymarket affair, but also what this means is potentially setting up the conditions for a general strike of some sort. Can you speak to that specific contractual change, that vision, but more broadly, the vision that the UAW has going forward for the broader labor movement, for the working class.

    Brandon Mancia:

    So I think we want to build a labor movement that is fighting together, and the call for lining up contracts, so they expire on mayday of ’28 is exactly that, to give everyone the opportunity to plan ahead, look at what you got right now, get things in order so that we have a target that is in common for everybody. So we’re doing the work of internally within our locals, outside of the big three, also lining up contracts in the different sectors, but also outreach and talking to different unions, different national and international unions. Because imagine how powerful a strike and the kinds of political demands we could have of this country if auto workers and teachers and nurses and all kinds of different kinds of workers are on strike or threatening to strike at the same time.

    That’s the idea. We don’t do enough of that in this country because in the labor room and in this country, we’re all segmented, we’re all doing different things. And another great thing that happened last year is that we were on strike, the writers were on strike, the screen actors were on strike, UPS had a contract campaign that really inspired and set the model for everyone, I think didn’t ultimately go on strike, but there was just a lot of energy. And if you found yourself in a certain city or town, you might have some other union also on strike and out on the picket line, and we could link up. So there were so many times where actors were coming to UAW picket lines and UAW workers were going out to other picket lines, and we were visiting each other and talking to each other, and that was incredible. That’s the kind of energy that we want in the labor movement.

    And I think the 2028 plan, the vision there is what if we actually coordinated for that? What if we actually intentionally planned around a target date like that so that we all have a deadline to look forward to and are organizing for? And organizing is something you’re in for the long haul. So with all these auto contracts, so sorry, auto organizing drives we have going on right now, we’re going to be fighting for years there to win what those workers deserve. So I think by the time we get to the table, again with the big three, Shawn has said, “We don’t want it to be just the big three. We want to be the big six, the big seven, the big eight. Whatever it is, we want to be able to come to the table with a lot more leverage.”

    Just speaking for the auto sector, there’s some things we didn’t win in this contract campaign. We ended waged tears and got COLA back and got a big raise, and it made a lot of strides for just transition and ending temp abuse. But we didn’t get pensions back for everybody. We didn’t get post-retirement healthcare back for everybody. Those things are the product of not because we didn’t strike hard enough or whatever. It was because we don’t have the density right now in the auto sector to have big transformative demands. We won those things when we were 80, 90% of the auto sector. We’re not that anymore. We’re around 40% maybe. So much of the sector is non-union and a lot of those things, our politicians have failed us. They’ve left retirees behind, they’ve left people sick. And without health insurance where Medicaid and Medicare aren’t enough, that’s not on unions.

    And that’s not just a company issue. That’s a political crisis in this country that we don’t take care of our people when they’re in need. So we need to be building all of this worker power through the labor movement to make these demands of our politicians too, and not just our company. So I think all of that is behind the idea of building a broader labor movement. And 2028 is the date we float it out there for people.

    Mel Buer:

    I think that’s a really important thing to note. I live in Los Angeles, and a lot of my labor coverage from the summer was really taking the time to situate myself in the multiple strikes that had upended the city. The city lost billions of dollars in revenue because workers took their power and walked out. And they won record contracts as a result of that, right? The writers got a great contract, SAG got a great contract. Workers with Unite here are continuing to push the tourism industry to be paid fairly at the hotels that they work at. And the reporting that I did last summer, I did an article on the sort of intersolidarity that was happening where individuals who were maybe recently activated by hitting a picket line for the first time in their careers, especially younger workers, got a chance to really start to understand what that kind of solidarity looks like outside of their own shops and their writer’s rooms and whatever else.

    And I think it’s really important, the points that you’re bringing up, Brandon, about needing to continue to broaden that sort of outlook, right? National solidarity across unions. Because you do see that when you have major labor actions like the standup strikes, like the teacher strikes of the years past, they can bring an entire sector to its knees. And that is a really powerful thing to be a part of that, and to understand that you do have that political power. Being able to see these calls for general strikes that usually just kind of are thrown out into the internet and people say they want to do this deal, but don’t really understand how to start the actual organizing of something of that nature, to see that become part of UAW policy that this is something that we are wanting to prime ourselves for if we need or should use it, is refreshing to see.

    And I think it’s also really important to tie this into the sort of international solidarity that you’re also beginning to talk about. And I think this might be a good segue into conversations about international solidarity, especially as it relates to the Israel-Palestine conflict and the occupation of Palestine by Israel. The UAW has come out as one of the largest, if not the largest national unions to support a ceasefire in Palestine. Something that anti-war labor activists have welcomed, even as a lot of US unions have remained largely silent on the issue. I think it’s important to note for our listeners that the UAW has through their public positions, heated the call of Palestinian labor unions and displaying international solidarity with workers that are currently trapped under bombardment in Gaza.

    And have also joined the, what, a hundred plus international unions and other progressive or activist organizations that have called for a ceasefire in the region. Why do you think it is an important piece of this, that the union takes such a strong position in calling for an end to violence in this conflict? And how do you think that sits within the broader sort of conversation we’re having about international solidarity and what US labor can do to contribute to that building of that solidarity?

    Daniel Vicente:

    Yeah, so for me personally, I mean, it hits really close to home for multiple reasons. So I’m married to a Palestinian from the West Bank who currently is visiting family over in Jordan, and two of her brothers that do still currently live in the West Bank, were able to get over so they’re safe. But the conflict in Gaza is not contained currently just to Gaza. There are raids constantly in the West Bank right now. There is armed conflict happening in the West Bank that’s not being covered as much. But on top of that, I’m also a Marine Corps veteran of the Iraq War and the air campaign against Libya, and I’ve had questions for years. I’m proud of my service, proud to serve with my guys. But for years afterwards, it digs into your brain like, what the hell? Or excuse me, what was that about? What was the point of that? Did we achieve US foreign policy objectives? Did we make the world a safer place? Did we do any of that?

    And what I constantly come back to is, no. No, after 9/11, my opinion, we wanted revenge. We wanted revenge for a heinous terrorist attack against our country, which is on a human level, understandable. And for my purposes, I don’t speak for the entirety of the UAW, but for me as a human and as an American, I just want to make clear that I believe that we should and ought to remain allies with the state of Israel, right? I believe they have a right to exist. I believe they have a right to defend themselves from terrorist actions. But if we are truly their allies and their friends, your real friends don’t tell you what you want to hear when you want to hear it. They tell you what you need to hear, when you need to hear it.

    And we need to be telling our Israeli partners, our officials, our elected officials, need to be telling them, “You are doing exactly what we did after 9/11. We defeated Al-Qaeda in Iraq, and we laid the groundwork for ISIS to come to fruition. You are going to make it worse.” In the campaign that they are carrying out in Gaza currently, it is not a reasonable, it is not a well-thought out military campaign. It is not structured to find the Hamas terrorists that carried out the October 7th attacks. They are, in my opinion, carrying out collective action against an entire people because they want revenge. And they have officials in that country straight up telling in public, “We just want them to be repopulated somewhere else. We want them all to immigrate to Egypt or put them in Jordan and put them in Lebanon.”

    That is to me, my understanding of the Geneva Convention, my understanding of genocide. It checks all the boxes. It checks all the boxes. And there’s a narrative particularly on the right, that the only people upset by this outrageous campaign in Gaza are coastal, highly educated elites. And that’s not true. It’s simply not true. Regular Americans, middle of the country Americans are seeing, you can’t hide what’s happening. You’re seeing what’s happening. You are decimating entire areas, populated areas with human beings to kill one guy. It’s not acceptable. The other people and just being real saying, “Oh, well, the UAW signed a ceasefire agreement.” That doesn’t change anything. It’s not going to stop the bomb. You’re absolutely right. It’s not going to stop Benjamin Netanyahu from ordering the IDF to drop bombs, but we have to start somewhere.

    The UAW has had a long history in our past of supporting civil and human rights issues around the world because it was morally the right thing to do. It was morally just clearly right to do. It was right to oppose apartheid South Africa. It was right to speak out against the Vietnam War. And this is morally the right thing to do, and it’s a strange place for us to be because just frankly, we represent weapons manufacturers. And I just want to say it on here, the UAW stands for and believes in a robust military industry for the purposes of legitimate defense of the United States and her allies. For the legitimate defense and support of her allies.

    What’s happening right now in Gaza with the Israeli government, not the Jewish people, what the Israeli government is authorizing to happen to Palestinians is abhorrent. It’s a war crime, and it needs to be called out on every level. Every union should be calling this out. Every civil organization and every elected government officials should be calling this out because the United States should not support this. We’re the only country in the world that is supporting the nation state of Israel in this attack against these unarmed people. And it has to stop.

    Brandon Mancia:

    Yeah, no, I can just add to that. I think if the labor movement is going to have its role right now, which is I think the UAW is a part of building that as the conscious of this country, it’s going to have to speak out on these kinds of wars and acts of genocide. And I think the labor movement for too long has been silent or ignorant or intentionally ignorant on these issues. And it’s just straight up sided with Israel. And there’s a long documented history of that connection between the labor movement and the state of Israel. And I think it’s up to the point now where, like Dan said, you just can’t hide what’s happening anymore. You have to see it for what it is, and you have to call it out. So I commend UE and UFCW Local 3000 for publicly mobilizing this letter, this call for ceasefire within the labor movement.

    And so I don’t think UAW needs to get all the credit for labor’s turn on this. In fact, we are really late to it. But as part of this movement that is engaging the membership, creating a democratic union, a union that stands in solidarity with not just working people in this country, but poor and oppressed people all over the world, this was the right thing to do. And we’re very happy to see that. I think following our call for ceasefire, so many other unions, especially large unions, not just local unions or individual shops, have also followed the call. 1199’s statement was amazing in terms of linking the struggle for healthcare workers in this country to the bombing of hospitals and healthcare workers in Gaza.

    So there’s so many connections. Think of all the journalists that have been killed. Those are workers, humanitarian workers. The violence has to end, and the labor movement is good at negotiating agreements. That’s the path here. It’s peace so that you can negotiate lasting peace and justice for all people, not more warfare.

    Daniel Vicente:

    If the conflict expands from Gaza to Lebanon, then to, who knows, if the Iranians are already pushing the limits with the Yemeni, the Houthis movement, and Yemen, if the conflict expands, and why this is important to us, blue collar working people, it’ll be our children, us and our kids that have to go fight that conflict. It will not be the sons and daughters of bankers or senators. We have seen this, I mean, we’ve seen this. We know this. This is not just something new. It’ll be us that have to do this, blue collar people. And for our purposes, we do not want to see another conflict blow out of control where we’re having to send American sons and daughters overseas to a conflict that does not make us a safer nation. It does not meet or achieve US strategic goals in the world of making us a safer or adjuster world. It makes it worse, and that’s why it’s important for labor to speak on it because we’re the grunts.

    Mel Buer:

    I think it’s important to kind of circle back around a little bit, kind of discuss a little bit of what might seem to some outsiders, some of our audience who hear that the UAW represents members who are directly involved in weapons manufacturing or are working for one of the, what, five manufacturers in this country who supply the vast majority of arms to Israel. It seems like an irreconcilable contradiction that there are members of UAW, but the wider labor movement who are anti-war, but also have to contend with the fact that there’s a non-insignificant number of people who are benefiting economically as members of the working class in shops that are manufacturing weapons, weapons of war, being a part of the military industrial complex as it’s called.

    So I think maybe if we took some time to kind of untangle this for our listeners, Jeff Shirkey had a great analysis in Jewish currents last month where he notes that one of the UAW’s big victories in the negotiations with the big three was a commitment towards just transition within EV plants. And he kind of makes the case that there have been conversations in past generations with the UAW that there is such an idea as sort of just transition away from weapons of war, for example, or what do they call it, conversion initiatives. And so I’m wondering if that’s kind of part of some of the thoughts that you’re having is you’re thinking about ways to better serve your membership.

    But also potentially maybe begin the conversation of is there a sort of way that we can kind of divest ourselves from the military industrial complex and move towards this sort of peacetime economy economic items that by all intents and purposes, may actually be a better job for individuals, a longer lasting job, one that has better benefits or something of that nature. I guess really it’s kind of a roundabout way of let’s have this conversation and see what we can pull out of this for our listeners so they get a better understanding of what’s going on within organizing in the UAW. And if this is part of the, how do you grapple with this, I guess.

    Daniel Vicente:

    So our historic president, Walter Reuther, before the treaty of what was called the Treaty of Detroit, he had a broader vision for what the labor movement could be. And that labor should be at the table making decisions for investments in companies, but also should be at the table for what society should look like overall. But you’re right, it’s a very strange place to be when you represent weapons manufacturers. That’s their livelihoods, but you’re also calling for a ceasefire. We have a lot of work to do to educate our membership as to why it’s important to pay attention to where our products end up.

    Many of you would know when ISIS just popped onto the scene from what it seemed to us in 2013, ’14, they were all driving Toyotas. I guarantee a Toyota did not want their products associated with that. We have a responsibility to track where our products are used and for what purposes. We need to start looking collectively, not just in the UAW, but across all unions and across industry in general as to what do we want this society, what are our priorities as a country, as a people? And we have to have these hard conversations. Transitioning the military industrial complex into a peace time thing, that’s decades of work, but that’s again, labor is going to have to be at the table with not just other labor unionists with politicians.

    And we spoke a little bit about what a general strike, if we could legitimately start laying the groundwork as working class Americans for a general strike, we could start to legitimately influence politicians to change drastically the stances they take when they go back to the capitol, when they go to the hill and represent us. It’s just we have been conditioned for so long in this country to believe that we can’t change anything. Everything is the way it is. And right now, like I said, regular people care first about tangible things. If you can start to get them wins to make their lives better, you can start to branch out and explain to them the broader system and how unfair it is.

    And not just in our society, but how we treat the world, our global policies, how we interact globally with the rest of the world, these things need to change. And it’s a hard thing to hear for some Americans, because we’ve been brought up and told, we’re the best country in the world and we’re always this noble, just nation, just the best people. And we could, we can be the best. We could be this nation of progressive forward-thinking, trying to make the world a better place. But facts would suggest that’s not how we have acted, not in my lifetime.

    So we have to look at in the mirror, see and acknowledge that because it’s like if you have a drinking problem or drug problem, if you don’t acknowledge it first, you’re not going to fix it. We don’t always act equitably or fairly. We did terrible things across the world. The military industrial complex pushed us to do terrible things in Iraq and Afghanistan. We don’t have to continue down that road. Is there a way to transition armament factories into different types of products? Sure, but that’s going to take more than just the UAW. That’s going to take all of us collectively saying enough is enough.

    Brandon Mancia:

    Also, I’ll add to that by basically saying briefly that the main difference, and I know the Jeff Shirkey piece you’re pointing to, which I think is a brilliant kind of history of that idea. The one thing that’s missing is that the transition to EV was forced upon us. The companies wanted to force the EV transition on us so they can get rid of the UAW, get rid of unions. Shawn called it the race to the bottom so that all workers went down with the transition to the green economy. The idea of the just transition in the EV sector was, no, we need to transition to a green economy to make a sustainable planet, but you’re not going to sacrifice workers and working communities and families in that process.

    Right now, there is no anti-war capitalism that exists that is pushing an unjust transition to an anti-war economy. So what labor has to do in this moment, and this war is a perfect kind of example of what needs to happen, we need to have a conversation about what kind of movement we’re building. Is it an anti-war movement? Is it a movement for peace? Is it a movement for a different way for the US to act in the world? These are all the questions that the labor movement used to ask of itself, and it doesn’t anymore. So I think that’s a much bigger question, but it’s not going to come because the companies are doing it. It’s going to come because we as a movement are talking about it. So we’re discussing it as a union, and I think that’s at this moment what we’re building towards. But yeah, I think that aspect is really important to remember here.

    Daniel Vicente:

    If I may too, because I’ve seen some people say, “Well, the ceasefire letter was a nice first start, but why don’t you take more tangible step? Why don’t you shut down those factories?” And what people have to remember is we have collective bargaining agreements with these companies, which, so if we were to just walk everybody out, which our membership would not be required to do because an active contract, it would be a wild catch strike, and those people could all be fired immediately. They could lose their livelihoods. And I don’t think anybody listening to that would suggest that anyone should just walk out and lose their livelihood and how they pay their bills.

    But we do need to start laying the groundwork and thinking and discussing how do we at the next bargaining session for these contracts, how do we get language in there to give us pathways so that we can apply more pressure? How do we take more ownership of how these products are used? These are the conversations we need to start having now. So just to walk everybody out or to blockade the front gate, that wouldn’t do nothing for a rank and filer except put your job at risk. And if you want to lose momentum, if you want to lose people, and absolutely never have them listen to anything you say, go ahead and threaten their livelihoods and their jobs. I just want to put that out there.

    Mel Buer:

    Thank you. I just wanted to say thanks for taking the time before Teddy kind of moves us into our probably last bit of conversation. But thank you for taking the time to just have an honest chat about this, and to start to untangle some of the really thorny subjects that kind of come up when we talk about this kind of activism, when we talk about Labor’s role in these kind of movements. So thank you, and I really appreciate that we could have a bit of this conversation. So I’ll pass it off to Teddy, but I just wanted to make that comment and I think our listeners will also appreciate what’s been said so far.

    Teddy Ostrow:

    Yeah, I totally agree with that. But we would be remiss if we didn’t ask a question that was at least indirectly related to the 2024 election. Sorry, everybody, if you’re like me and don’t like to talk about it. Just kidding, sort of. A lot of people, or a lot of media has focused on the UAW President Shawn Fain having harsh words for both Donald Trump and Joe Biden for different and similar reasons. And Fain made a statement that I think points to the newly class struggle orientation of the union that the UAW is dedicated to fighting the billionaire class, which includes people like Donald Trump. That we can’t keep electing billionaires, millionaires whose interests are opposite those of the working class.

    And we’ve been talking about the UAW representing the working class, the workers of the union, but also the broader working class. And all of this comes even as the president of the Teamsters, Sean O’Brien has met with Trump, which caused an uproar among some members and certainly among the labor left. But on the “other side”, we’ve also seen the UAW leadership indicate that it is not going to hand out cheap endorsements to Democrats like Biden, who has done frankly very little to ensure auto workers and other workers have a bright unionized future.

    And this is pretty atypical for unions who I think have been somewhat of lapdogs for Democrats for a long time. So I wanted to ask you guys, how do you think the UAW or unions in general should be engaging with electoral politics or with politics more broadly, more expansively? And also, how are you guys handling or would like to handle the admittedly sticky, uncomfortable political tensions that exist within the union within many unions, which in the electoral realm at least, includes substantial proportion of the membership expressing support for a billionaire that is Trump?

    Brandon Mancia:

    Yeah, so I can start. Basically, the truth is a lot of our members did vote for Donald Trump in the two elections in which he ran. And part of having a democratic union is working through that, talking about that. And there was a reason why Democrats had not been coming to the table for working people for decades. And I think that that’s the story we’ve seen in state, after state in this country is working people, middle class people turning to the Republicans because of the betrayal of the Democratic Party. But I do want to be clear that the UAW is not to endorse Donald Trump. Shawn Fain has said as much publicly that every fiber of our unions being is going to be fighting the billionaire class that enriches people like Donald Trump.

    Joe Biden, for all his faults, came to the picket line right after we took a hard stance of him about how he had dashed out these subsidies for the EV transition. He showed up to the picket line. Julie Sue and the Department of Labor has been working with the UAW through the negotiations to work on the just transition. And what did Donald Trump do? Donald Trump went to visit a non-union auto plant, a parts plant in Michigan when he could have easily come to a UW picket line and made his case for members who voted for him, members who didn’t vote for him, and have student solidarity with our strike. He bashed the strike.

    So of course, there’s going to be members who support Trump or are disappointed with Biden, but the truth is we’re not going to be a union that’s going to stand by a candidate like Trump who as president, tries to basically install a dictatorship and keep himself as president and was no friend of working people. He wanted to outsource every job and for all his talk about manufacturing coming back to the US, manufacturing kept going on in decline during his presidency. There was no growth in manufacturing jobs, good middle class jobs, good union jobs. So that definitely has to be said.

    Daniel Vicente:

    I’m so glad that Brandon’s here to give the more reasonable approach. So I’ll give you the more factory approach. F Donald Trump. He’s an orange clown. He has no business being the president of the United States, and we have to oppose him organized labor. We have to oppose him with every fiber of our being. And you’re right, in my opinion, there are members… I’m not going to beat around the bush. There are certain elements of our membership that voted Donald Trump because of the white supremacy part of it. That’s just a part of it. That’s a very slim minority of them. The majority of the people that I think voted for Donald Trump is because they feel that they have been failed. So overwhelmingly failed by the traditional political establishment in this country, both Democrat and Republican.

    So they felt like, hey, I’ll give this guy a shot. What’s the worst that could happen? I’ll throw a grenade in a room and see what happens. Let’s just vote for chaos and see what happens If that man comes back as president, he is saying what he’s going to do, he’s laying it out. Labor unions are going to be under attack. The NLRB is going to be completely changed. We are going to face massive… And the UAW particularly because he asked us straight up for an endorsement, he is going to come at us specifically. And listen, Joe Biden is not my first choice either. He’s 107 years old. But it is at this point, the choice comes down to do we believe, legitimately as Americans and the Democratic principles that this country was founded on, that life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, do we still believe that a representative democratic institution is how we should run our country? Or do we think that we should hand it over to right wing nutbags who want to create some sort of Italian fascist state or something?

    It’s not acceptable. We cannot allow it to happen and we absolutely have to oppose him and we have to call him out for what he is. The man is a man, no offense, Brandon, but he’s a Manhattanite millionaire who’s never struggled a day in his life. The dude doesn’t know your struggle. The dude has never had to work a factory. The dude, as much as I disagreed with John McCain, the dude got five deferments from Vietnam and then trashed a Vietnam veteran, which I will never forgive. I personally will never forgive. The dude’s a clown. The dude is a clown and he’s playing you. And I would ask that every working person in this country try to look and look at what his policies did for you and your actual life, tangible things, didn’t make it better. Didn’t make it better. If you are a multinational conglomerate, certainly made your business better. But if you work, if you’re a working person, he attacked your lifestyle constantly in his time as president. And if he’s allowed to come back, he’s coming at you even harder. It’ll be Trump 2.0 this time when a vengeance.

    Brandon Mancia:

    I’m a proud New Yorker, and I disown Donald Trump.

    Daniel Vicente:

    God bless you.

    Mel Buer:

    I think we’re kind of getting to the place where we might be able to wind down this conversation a little bit. So I think just a sort of final thought here and a bit of an anecdote. I did reporting on the Kellogg’s picket line in 2021, and I spent a lot of time with my neighbors in Omaha, Nebraska who represent all sort of manners of the political spectrum. And the reality is no matter who you voted for and folks, we had lots of conversations on the line, you can kind of catch some of it in my previous reporting from years past. But without fail, especially in the Midwest, being able to sit down and talk politics on a picket line is kind of bread and butter. You know what I mean?

    And the reality is folks don’t really care about who you voted for because the common enemy is the boss who’s taking your pay out of your paycheck. And as long as you can trust the person you’re standing shoulder to shoulder with to suit up and show up at a picket line, to be able to stand together against this sort of injustices, this economic oppression that happens in this country, then there’s a way forward. And that’s kind of been my stance in terms of electoral politics in a long time since I’ve been covering the labor movements since I’m now. And I’ve been a member of the IWW for years, and I’m a member of the CWA News Guild now, and it’s the same thing.

    We have differing opinions about how we participate in politics, but the reality is we can affect our material conditions now. And how we choose to engage with electoral politics in this country is sort of everyone’s decision is their own. I guess it’s a little middle of the road I guess. I don’t know, but that would be kind of my thoughts about that. Before we wrap up though, is there anything that we maybe haven’t touched on or something that Daniel or Brandon that you are excited about that you want to let our listeners know to watch to be aware of as we move further into 2024? Any organizing or anything exciting that you want to share?

    Daniel Vicente:

    For my part of it and Region 9, which is Pennsylvania, jersey and central and western New York, we’re getting more organizing tips and calls than we can handle currently at the moment. We don’t have enough heads covering and it’s from all different sectors. And if there’s anything that is filling me with some sort of enthusiasm and hope for the upcoming year, it’s that what happened during the pandemic, the fault lines were exposed so blatantly for everybody that the system, the society we are in does not value us. It is not fair. It does not allow us, like I’ve said, pathways that were enjoyed by our previous generations we’re organized. People are organizing.

    And if you’re listening to this and you’re in an unorganized shop, you’re listening to this because you’re interested in the labor movement, you’re interested in these types of things, the people around you are that, too. They might just not know that this exists. Start having conversations, start talking to people. And I know how it is at work, you don’t love everybody. But always remember, what’s good for me over here is probably good for that guy, too. It’s probably good for this lady over here. And you spend so much time in these workplaces, and you talk to each other and you get to know each other, and you meet people with radically different opinions and ideas from you. And you start to feel for them. You start to know their kids’ names. You start to know their parents or their wives or spouse’s names.

    And if you get nothing else out of this, try to take this, try to remember that feeling when you see one of your friends at work, they get let go for some garbage reason, for some nothing. That’s why we get into unionism, because we don’t like seeing our people get messed with. And if you’re listening to this because you don’t like seeing your people get messed with, and the only way that you can fight back against those who have against us who have not is if you organize and you join a union. I don’t care if it’s the UAW, I don’t care if you form your own union, I don’t care. You join the team. So it’s whatever, organize, join a union because collectively, only collectively, those who have not can fight against those who have.

    Teddy Ostrow:

    You heard it first, Region 9 will be endorsing the love candidate, Marian Williamson. Just kidding. You can wrap up now. Sorry.

    Mel Buer:

    Thank you so much, guys for coming on today’s show to talk about UAW’s, exciting organizing and to have a really good, I think, conversation about some of the more complex things that we run into when we are talking about organizing in this day and age. And thank you, Teddy Ostrow for joining me as co-host for this special episode. God, I hope I can bring you back on. It’s been a joy working with you again. But that’s it for us here at The Real News Network podcast. Once again, I am your host, Mel Buer.

    If you love today’s episode, be sure to subscribe to the podcast to get notified when the next one drops. You can find us on most platforms, including Spotify and YouTube. And if you’d like to get in touch with me, you can find me on most social media. My DMs are always open, or send me a message via email at mel@therealnews.com. Send your tips, comments, questions, episode ideas, scream into my inbox. I don’t mind. I just love to hear from you. So thank you so much for sticking around and I’ll see you next time.

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    Janine Jackson interviewed EPI’s Sebastian Martinez Hickey about the minimum wage for the January 12, 2024, episode of CounterSpin. This is a lightly edited transcript.

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    Janine Jackson: It is partly due to corporate news media’s misleading, invidious presentation of the minimum wage as about individuals—“Who’s working these jobs, why don’t they get skills to move up to something better?”—that we have trouble seeing and asking societal questions instead.

    Like, why should a country have jobs whose full-time workers don’t earn enough to not be impoverished? Why is a company whose waged employees require public assistance to keep their heads above water deemed a “successful” company? Why is it a fight to get wages higher than they were generations ago, when profits are not likewise constrained?

    The story today is that despite the misinformation, many people do know what the minimum wage means—to individuals and families, certainly, but also to society as a whole. And they’re fighting through that often-skewed public debate to get, most recently, a raise in the minimum wage in some 22 states.

    Sebastian Martinez Hickey has been tracking wage issues as a researcher for the Economic Analysis and Research Network team at the Economic Policy Institute. He joins us now by phone from Washington, DC. Welcome to CounterSpin, Sebastian Martinez Hickey.

    Sebastian Martinez Hickey: Thank you so much. It’s a pleasure being here.

    EPI: Twenty-two states will increase their minimum wages on January 1, raising pay for nearly 10 million workers

    EPI (12/21/23)

    JJ: Let’s start with the news that you just wrote about, on the minimum wage increases that went into effect January 1. For those asleep under rocks since the 1950s, that might sound like it means some fast food workers will get more pocket change to take home to mom. But that’s not an accurate or useful picture of who minimum wage workers are, or what the effects of a lift in that wage might mean.

    So tell us about the scope of these new increases—who do they reach?—and then what does your analysis suggest that the various impacts of this could be?

    SMH: As you mentioned, 22 states increased their minimum wage in January, in addition to 38 cities and counties that increased their minimum wages above and beyond their state minimum wages. And these increases are happening all over the country. It’s happening in big urban coastal states like New York and California, but also rural states like Nebraska and South Dakota.

    According to our analysis, these increases are going to reach almost 10 million workers, and in total these workers are going to gain almost $7 billion in wages over the course of the next year.

    You asked about who these workers are. We’re not just talking about workers that work at the federal minimum wage, which is still stuck at $7.25. We’re really talking about low-wage workers as a group.

    So if you think about workers that are earning, for example, less than $15 an hour, there’s more than 17 million of those workers in the United States. More than 60% of those workers are older than 24, so most of these people are adults. They are most likely the primary breadwinners in their households. There’s also a misconception that these low-wage workers are just part-time workers, when in fact most of these workers are full-time workers.

    In addition, in other ways, low-wage workers just represent ordinary working-class people in the United States. They tend to disproportionately be women. They also tend to disproportionately be Black and Hispanic workers, which means that when minimum wages are increased, it’s a force for gender and racial equity. They are also parents; more than a quarter of the people who are getting raises from the minimum-wage increases are parents, which means that their wages obviously have to cover the needs of their children as well.

    People who are closer or below the poverty line; almost two-fifths of the people who are receiving increases are at 200% or less of the federal poverty line. And I use that benchmark because that includes people who are officially poor, but also a lot of people who we know are struggling to make ends meet, even if they are not technically poor.

    JJ: Right. Maybe they don’t qualify as poor this month, but that’s because they’re short-changing their healthcare or something else.

    SMH: Exactly.

    JJ: I appreciate your pointing out that we’re not talking about the federal minimum wage, which is still $7.25 an hour. So it isn’t a blanket lift. It varies a lot, as you’ve said, from place to place. So, in other words, it’s not corporations saying, “Hey, we’re making profits, and so we’re going to lift all our wages.” It’s really a matter of local and state level political action and organizing that has got us to these raises.

    Politico: Historic gains: Low-income workers scored in the Covid economy

    Politico (5/29/23)

    SMH: Yeah, in the last couple of years, low-wage workers have experienced historic wage growth compared to what has been the normal trend over the course of the last 50 years. And that’s a good thing. But it means it’s also really important that states and localities take action to increase their minimum wages, so that it locks in the benefit that workers are experiencing, I would argue, temporarily.

    JJ: As I said, I think the presentation of the minimum wage as a thing that just faces some workers actively detracts from our understanding of society-wide impacts. And I guess I’d like to ask you, how is it good for me, even if I don’t work a minimum-wage job, how is it good for me to see the minimum wage lifted in states and communities? There’s a broader impact.

    SMH: Yeah, there definitely is. I’ll make a couple points. One is that, what empirical research shows is that the minimum wage doesn’t just lift wages for people that are below the new minimum-wage threshold. It also has some spillover effects for workers who are above the new threshold. So this happens because employers are trying to keep their wage ladders consistent, as the entire wage distribution moves up a little bit. And it usually impacts people around 15% above the new threshold. So that isn’t affecting everyone, but it is an additional benefit that comes from the minimum wage.

    But in terms of society at large and the economy at large, we know that low-wage workers spend a lot more of their money in their local economies compared to high-income earners. So when you put money in the pockets of low-wage workers through a minimum-wage increase, you get this beneficial effect where people are spending more money in the economy.

    Critics of the minimum wage will say that when you increase the minimum wage, it’s going to either force businesses out of business or make them lay off lots of workers. And we don’t see that in the most high-end research that has been done on this topic, and it’s been studied a lot in economics. And one of the reasons is that there are channels like these by which the economy can adjust to becoming more equitable through a minimum-wage increase.

    JJ: I’m going to bring you back to that, but I just wanted to take a little step here to say that listeners will know that we often hear about the importance of pegging wages to inflation. What’s important about that? What’s the role that inflation is playing here in relation to this wage increase?

    SMH: Yes. So most of the states that have increases this year are doing so because their minimum-wage policies automatically make adjustments to price increases over the course of the last year. This is a really important step, because it keeps the minimum wage from eroding in terms of its purchasing power.

    It’s particularly a good thing if you think that the alternative is simply allowing the minimum wage to stagnate indefinitely, which is basically what we’ve done with the federal minimum wage. The federal minimum wage has not been raised since 2009, and because of price increases over the intervening period, that means that the federal minimum wage is worth more than 30% less than it was in 2009.

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    JJ: Listeners are going to hear today some of the years-ago but lamentably still-relevant conversation that I had with Saru Jayaraman on tipped wages, and I know that you think about that as well, but you recognize, in other words, these increases in the minimum wage come in a context. They’re not a golden ticket to an equitable economy, that there are other things that need to happen. So, broadly, how do you contextualize— it’s important, lives are going to change, but it’s not the end of the road.

    SMH: Yeah, of course not. And you mentioned the tipped minimum wage, which at the federal level still sits at $2.13 an hour, which is insanely low. And we know that we can compare, for example, bartenders—a stereotypical tipped position—we can compare bartenders who live in states that use the federal tipped minimum to states that have gotten rid of the tipped minimum. And we know that the workers that have the lower tipped minimum wage experience more poverty. So it is a policy with very real consequences for working people.

    But in terms of other important tools for creating a more equitable economy, I would mention paid sick leave. So universal paid sick leave, clearly a really important priority for making working people healthy and safe in their jobs.

    We see advocates combining the minimum wage and paid sick leave in ballot measures in a couple of states. So this year, there are ballot measures in Alaska and Missouri which are combining minimum-wage increases and paid sick-leave access, because they know that these are two issues that are so important to working people.

    The other really important thing I would raise is making sure that there is adequate enforcement of wage theft and other labor violations. Because even with a strong minimum-wage policy, if there are too many loopholes where employers can take money, exploit their workers, without fear of penalties or adequate enforcement, then it really undermines the success of a strong minimum-wage policy.

    And related to that, it’s also really important to continue to pursue meaningful labor law reform, making sure that every worker has access to a union if they want it. It is a really important tool for making sure that our labor standards are enforced adequately.

    JJ: One final question. I do blame news media, not just because it’s my job, but actually from my heart, because we are so relentlessly sold this idea of an economy and a society of “makers and takers,” and it’s such corrosive nonsense. But I know that when some folks hear the idea that “we” are going to give some workers a raise, that is going to lead pundits, whether they’re on TV or at your dinner table, to say, “Well, who are we taking it from? Someone must be getting less if some people are getting more.”

    And I wonder sort of broadly how you, as an economist, grapple with or redirect that kind of framing. But then, also, are there things that you think that news reporters could do differently, that might make these issues more accessible and understandable to folks, around minimum wage?

    Sebastian Martinez Hickey

    Sebastian Martinez Hickey: “Where you don’t see progress on the minimum wage, it’s because our politics or our institutions hold back the popular will.”

    SMH: Yes, that’s a great question. A couple of things to raise, as I mentioned earlier, what the economic research shows is that there are many channels by which a minimum-wage increase can benefit the whole economy, without being the zero-sum game that it is often depicted as being. It’s not simply a battle between small businesses and greedy workers on the two sides.

    What economic research shows is that there are channels, in terms of small price increases, decreased profits for businesses, as well as productivity increases that come from when workers are paid more—they tend to have less turnover, they tend to be more invested in their job. And these are all things that, in total, have [been] shown to not have the negative consequences that are sometimes attributed to minimum-wage increases.

    Another point I would like to make is that minimum wages continue to be a really popular policy throughout the country. I mentioned earlier how the increases this year are occurring in wealthy urban states, they’re happening in very rural states; it’s happening throughout the country. Basically, when ordinary people are given the chance to have their opinion on the minimum wage, they’re broadly supportive of it.

    The places where you don’t see progress on the minimum wage, it’s because our politics or our institutions hold back the popular will of ordinary people. And, obviously, you see that most clearly in Congress, and the hold-up in terms of the federal minimum wage.

    But another way that this is really important is in terms of states that preempt cities and counties from setting their own minimum wage. There are so many examples of cities and counties in the South and in the Midwest, mostly, that have tried to set their minimum wage to an adequate level, because they know that that’s what they want for their communities;  that’s what’s good for their economies. And then they’re preempted from doing so by state legislatures that don’t actually represent the communities that want the minimum-wage increase. So I think that talking about this issue in terms of who has the ability to set their own minimum wages is also really important.

    JJ: We’ve been speaking with Sebastian Martinez Hickey, researcher with EARN, the Economic Analysis and Research Network, at the Economic Policy Institute. They’re online at EPI.org. Sebastian Martinez Hickey, thank you so much for joining us this week on CounterSpin.

    SMH: Thank you, Janine.

     

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    In an era where actual labor songs — of the sort popularized by Pete Seeger in the 1940s — are in short supply, Rage Against the Machine has become the quintessential representative of “protest music.” This is despite the fact that “Sleep Now in the Fire” is now over twenty years old. One could make the case that we are long overdue for more overtly pro-union, pro-worker anthems.

    In a tragic instance of “the more things change, the more they stay the same,” we likely couldn’t find a more serviceable tune than one of the mainstays of the Industrial Workers of the World (IWW) trade union songbook. “Solidarity Forever” still resonates, even at 109 years old.

    The song’s lyrics, referencing the “untold millions” who “stand outcast and starving,” might lead one to assume that the song was composed at the height of the Great Depression. But the fact that it was composed about fifteen years before the stock market crash of 1929 highlights that the oppression and hardship experienced by the American worker transcended the confines of the worst general economic crisis the nation faced in the twentieth century.

    The song’s enduring relevance, mirroring the hardships and oppression experienced by millions of Americans today, underscores both its timelessness and universal message. Unfortunately, it also reminds us that many of the battles fought over a century ago have yet to be won.

    Ralph Chaplin crafted the lyrics over the course of several years in the mid-1910s, finalizing them on January 15, 1915. Chaplin set the lyrics to the melody of “John Brown’s Body,” a popular Union marching song from the Civil War. Notably, Chaplin completed the song just six months before the execution of fellow IWW songwriter Joe Hill, credited with coining the term “pie in the sky” in his song “The Preacher and the Slave.”

    Chaplin began writing the song three years earlier, while working as a journalist covering the Paint Creek–Cabin Creek Strike of 1912. The strike marked one of several bloody confrontations between striking workers and hired thugs over a roughly decade-long period known as the Mine Wars. The Mine Wars, in turn, were part of the broader Coal Wars, a series of labor conflicts in coal mining dating back to the 1870s.

    In a tragically familiar tale, the strike, lasting from April 18, 1912, through July 1913, ended in considerable violence and suffering. While historical records note around fifty casualties on both sides, many more among the striking miners and their families are believed to have succumbed to malnutrition and starvation. The strike ranks as one of the most violent labor conflicts in American history, though it is somewhat overshadowed by later conflicts like the Battle of Blair Mountain and the Battle of Matewan (also known as the Matewan Massacre).

    ‘Solidarity Forever’ serves as a stark reminder that the fight is still far from over, and too much ground has been lost over the last forty years.

    At the heart of the conflict was a difference of just two-and-a-half cents. The miners of the forty-one unionized Paint Creek mines received two-and-a-half cents less per ton of coal mined compared to their counterparts in Kanawha County, West Virginia. If the mine operators agreed to the terms, it would have cost about fifteen cents per miner per day (equivalent to just over $30 in current dollars).

    The miners’ other demands were all quite reasonable as well: recognition of their union, respect of workers’ rights to free speech and freedom of assembly, fair payment for the coal they mined (with the right to independently verify weights measured and scales used), and the elimination of rules forcing miners to spend their pay at company stores.

    Rather than agree to these reasonable terms, the mine operators chose violence, hiring the Baldwin-Felts Detective Agency to provide three hundred armed guards who quickly set up fortifications with machine gun posts. In response, Socialist Party activists sent the miners one thousand rifles and fifty thousand rounds of ammunition. Reciprocal acts of violence and sabotage became the norm. When state troops were called in to restore order and impose martial law, they disarmed the striking miners and carried out mass arrests.

    “Solidarity Forever” was born of in this violent chapter of American labor history. Its subsequent popularity left Chaplin with serious misgivings, particularly due to what he perceived as the co-optation of the American labor movement. He was particularly leery about the song’s adoption by the AFL-CIO, which many Wobblies considered too conservative. Chaplin spelled out his misgivings about both the song and the movement it was born out of in a 1968 article for American West.

    Despite these reservations, Chaplin’s lyrics remain impactful today because the fight for working people isn’t over. The United States is still controlled by the “greedy parasite who would lash us into serfdom and would crush us with his might.” Child labor, once believed to have been eradicated through the militant labor struggles of a century ago, has reared its ugly head once more. Government remains passive and unconcerned about the plight of the working class, and issues like prison labor, flagrant workers’ rights violations, and abusive union-busting policies persist. Homeless encampments of working poor further highlight that, from the vantage point of an early twentieth-century militant labor activist, the America of 2024 wouldn’t seem all that unfamiliar.

    Recent successes in labor organizing are undeniably inspiring, especially considering the opposition such efforts have faced. But the crisis of labor so aptly described in “Solidarity Forever” serves as a stark reminder that the fight is still far from over, and too much ground has been lost over the last forty years.

    The key to understanding the potency highlighted in “Solidarity Forever” — and the reason it still serves as a beacon of hope for the future — lies in the song’s final verse:

    In our hands is placed a power greater than their hoarded gold
    Greater than the might of armies, magnified a thousand-fold
    We can bring to birth a new world from the ashes of the old
    For the union makes us strong

    For Chaplin, the point wasn’t simply a New Deal or a Great Society, but a workers’ utopia. Lofty though it may sound now, such a goal is still worth fighting for.

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