{"id":596648,"date":"2022-04-08T21:36:37","date_gmt":"2022-04-08T21:36:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/dissidentvoice.org\/?p=128629"},"modified":"2022-04-08T21:36:37","modified_gmt":"2022-04-08T21:36:37","slug":"phone-call-records-appear-to-cast-doubt-on-ukrainian-claims-of-russian-atrocities","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/radiofree.asia\/2022\/04\/08\/phone-call-records-appear-to-cast-doubt-on-ukrainian-claims-of-russian-atrocities\/","title":{"rendered":"Phone Call Records Appear to Cast Doubt on Ukrainian Claims of Russian Atrocities"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Ukrainian and Western media outlets have accused Russian troops of killing civilians in Bucha and other towns around Ukraine\u2019s capital, Kiev in the past month. Excerpts of phone calls obtained by RT, however, appear to contradict some of the allegations and seem to paint a different picture of the situation on the ground.<\/p>\n

Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky claimed, on Thursday, that the situation in settlement of Borodyanka is \u201cmuch more disastrous\u201d<\/em> than that reported in Bucha, about 25 kilometers (15.5 miles), to the southeast. Moscow has strongly denied the allegations and accused Ukraine, and its Western backers of trying to\u00a0\u201cframe\u201d<\/em> its personnel.<\/p>\n

RT was unable to independently verify the authenticity of the recordings. In what appears to be an excerpt from a satellite phone call, an alleged reporter identified only as \u2018Simon\u2019 tells his colleagues he visited Borodyanka and found that\u00a0\u201cthere\u2019s no bodies in the streets at all,\u201d<\/em> contrary to what he was led to expect.<\/p>\n

The town has been \u201cshelled to pieces,\u201d<\/em>\u00a0he outlines, \u201cbut there\u2019s no evidence of any rights abuses here at all.\u201d<\/em>\u00a0Simon\u00a0claims that he and his crew interviewed multiple residents who said the Russian troops had been very friendly and gave them food and water and other supplies. \u201cAnd we got quotes on camera for that,\u201d<\/em> he adds.<\/p>\n

\u201cI don\u2019t know what the prosecutor was talking about, but we have seen nothing like that at all. It\u2019s a completely different picture,\u201d<\/em>\u00a0he continues, adding that a French journalist may have seen the body of someone killed by shelling, but \u201cno executions.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

The alleged reporter ends the call by saying he was going back to Bucha, to \u201ctry and find some more evidence of extrajudicial killings there, but there\u2019s no sign of any of that here.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

Ukraine accused Russia of murdering over 400 civilians in Bucha before retreating from the town near Kiev last week. The US and its allies have backed Kiev\u2019s claims, citing them as reasons to impose more sanctions against Russia.<\/p>\n

Moscow has categorically denied the accusations, saying that Russian troops pulled out of the town on March 30, and that claims of killings appeared only four days later \u2013 after Ukrainian security forces and TV cameras arrived in the town.<\/p>\n

Another recording obtained by RT seems to depict a conversation between two Ukrainian Security Service (SBU) officials. The SBU is the local successor agency to the Soviet KGB.<\/p>\n

They discuss the situation in Kukhari, a town about 60 kilometers (37 miles) northwest of Bucha, and seem to contradict the prevailing media narrative coming from Kiev and the NATO capitals.<\/p>\n

\u201cFrom March 24 to April 3, after we pushed the \u2018orcs\u2019 away from here,\u201d<\/em> says a person only identified as Sergey Anatolyevich, speaking to someone named Lesogor and using a derogatory Ukrainian term for Russians. \u201cAfter the unit that pushed them out moved on, the territorial defense came from Malin \u2026 and marauded during that time. Looted everything they could. Broke down doors, everything. Safes were opened, cars were stolen. They stuffed the cars with everything worth anything and took it away,\u201d<\/em> he adds.<\/p>\n

\u201cIt turns out the \u2018Moskals\u2019 took nothing, but ours went in and looted everything,\u201d<\/em> Sergey Anatolyevich adds, using another derogatory term for Russians. Malin is a nearby town southwest of Kukhari, held by the Ukrainian military.<\/p>\n

When Lesogor asks which unit was looting, Sergey Anatolyevich replies that no one really knows. \u201cSome say Volhynian, others say someone else,\u201d<\/em> he says, referring to a region in western Ukraine.<\/p>\n

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